Pregnant & Smoking??? WTF???

There is a woman at the office who is pregnant and she smokes, daily.

She knows it's wrong and extremely unhealthy, but can't or won't give it up.

What would you do if you either knew someone was smoking while pregnant or if you happened to see someone obviously pregnant and smoking?

I recently saw a woman who looked to be ready to give birth, lighting up outside of a restaurant and it took everything in me not to run up to her and shake some sense into her. The only reason I didn't was because I had my son with me, otherwise, I'm not sure what I would have done.

What would you do?

Sat. Apr 26, 9:23pm

I don't think that there is anything you can do, really, except pray for that baby. I have a friend whose mom smoked and now she suffers from severe asthma. really sad!

Saturday, April 26, 2008, 9:48 PM

Its gross, I had a similar situation at my office. I said nothing.

Now - I am not saying this is right = BUT when my cousins wife was pregnant she was a heavy smoker. Her physician told her to cut down as much as possible, that withdrawal would be hard on her and the baby.

Like I said: I don't think its right, but maybe she is getting advise from someone that is a little twisted.

Saturday, April 26, 2008, 10:05 PM

9:23 unless you want to live in nazi germany there is nothing you can do, or should want to do. america is the land of the free, sometimes people are free to do things you think are wrong. i do as well, but i would rather have her smoking, than living in a country where the police could pick her up and jail her for it. what about you? on a side note, i dont smoke so dont think thats where im coming from, i dont think women should have abortions unless, there is a severe risk or the woman was raped, but i dont picket clincs either

Sunday, April 27, 2008, 1:58 AM

No advise for the coworker except that she's a grown woman, let her make her own stupid mistakes since there really is nothing you can do.
As for the woman outside the restraunt, are you sure she was even pregnant? I've met many, I mean many, women that looked pregnant but were not. So unless you know for sure, you might just want to keep your opinion to yourself otherwise you might doubly piss off a stranger. (1. for telling her how to live her life, and 2. for assuming she's pregnant.)
It's all good to rant to friends and what not, but as an individual you cannot control other ppl's decisions unless they are your child.

P.S. Yes I am a smoker, and yes I am in a process of trying to quit because I want to have kids in a year or two. I will never smoke while pregnant, because my family has enough health risks as it is.

Sunday, April 27, 2008, 6:22 AM

1:58....Nazi Germany no longer exists. I currently live in Germany (I'm an American ex-pat) and can tell you that in many ways we enjoy more freedom than Americans. And in many ways this country is a lot more civilized than living in the grand ole US of A...

Sunday, April 27, 2008, 8:01 AM

There's nothing you can do or say. I'm just amazed they're not so embarassed that they at least smoke in private!

Sunday, April 27, 2008, 12:11 PM

It's called a drug for a reason...addictive, perhaps they were not informed, you would be amazed how many people are unaware of it's true harm. I work w/ a lot of poor communties and bring a prenatal curriculum to them, tha majority smoke at the age of 9/10 years old so when pregnant at 15 years they are not informed or at least are not part of a good support system. It is sad and at least for those individulas they actually do have a reason. However I discover smoking among the upper middle classes and well educated folks to be perhaps less tollerable, almost b/c they should and probably do know better. Either way I have dealt with it for years, the best way I can describe it to be almost preachy like is" It is like getting in a car with your child and only fastening your self and go speeding down a highway. making the choice not to protect your child..basically my point is a mother can choose to smoke or not but the child is the one who will take all abuse for her actions....even though it is addictive in the end it is only 9 +months of sacrafice they have to make...then they can smoke oudoors if it's that important.
OP as far as you stating things to co-worker, perhaps leave a flier around ,,,or say something to her if you have a relationship, a stranger on a corner not so much but if someone knows you really care for them they may be more open, it's a tough one good luck.

Sunday, April 27, 2008, 1:13 PM

Not trying to be controversial here, and let me say I don't smoke and hate smoking. However, I definitely wouldn't say anything. Its really up to the women and none of your business. We can't live in a world where people at work or off the street feel it's ok to intrude in our personal lives to scold us for real or perceived non-major health risks. Keep in mind, in my mom's generation, everyone smoked, and while not good for babies, it certainly wasn't the end of the world. Please don't take my argument down the slippery slope..yes, I would stop a pregnant woman from walking in front of traffic, etc. but OP, you need to get a grip.

Sunday, April 27, 2008, 3:04 PM

Two words for you: BUTT OUT

Sunday, April 27, 2008, 4:40 PM

Butt out?

Wouldn't that be kind of rude, though? Going up to someone and putting their butt out?

Sunday, April 27, 2008, 11:30 PM

I completely disagree. I would say something and totally apply peer pressure on here. That is crazy just letting her alone like that.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 8:39 AM

She's not breaking the law and it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. You think the words of some supercilious, know-it-all stranger is going to change her mind? If I were her, I'd light up another one right in front of you and blow smoke in your face. And I'm not even a smoker, just a typical member of the human race who doesn't like to be told what to do by anyone, especially some snotty "well-meaning" stranger.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 10:22 AM

I don't know anyone who "enjoys" smoking. The people I know that smoke all wish they could quit. But it is an addiction because the tobacco companies mix addictive ingredients into the tobacco to keep their customers buying cigs from them.

Just about everyone old enough to be pregnant KNOWS the health risks of smoking. If she is still smoking during pregnancy in 2008, you can believe it is such a strong addiction that even if she doesn't want to be doing it, it's too difficult for her to quit at the moment.

I'd mind my own business. Unless she's actually smoking AT work (rather than outside on break), and the smoke is contaminating all the indoor air. Then I'd make a big production out of making sure my work place became smoke free as soon as possible (it's the law here, so it wouldn't take much). But not to single her out for smoking because she's pregnant. As much as knowing and seeing that would bother me, it's just not my business to tell someone else what to do with her personal life.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 11:16 AM

I am not saying it is right at all, and I would never do it, but my mom did it when she was pregnant with me, and all that happend was that now I like to smoke

Monday, April 28, 2008, 12:02 PM

PP- all that happened that you know of, anyway.

Regardless, why would anyone want to take a chance with their baby's health?

Monday, April 28, 2008, 12:09 PM

Ok listen I am a healthy 22 year old, have rarely ever been sick I have had blood tests done I go to the doctor regularly and so far, I am as healthy as a horse, jeez...

Monday, April 28, 2008, 12:18 PM

And remember what I said..ok...I said that I WOULD NEVER do it. My mom made mistakes...she hated even telling me what she had done please dont get defensive I was just telling you what happened.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 12:19 PM

I saw a woman doing this last week. It made me so sad for that baby because the effects are terrible for them. When it's born it will go through withdrawal and it's very difficult. Increased chances of learning disabilities, the list goes on and on.

However, it's none of my business. It's her choice and not against the law. It just makes me sad that a woman would do that to her unborn child. That's not love.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 1:06 PM

To the people whom it bothers, you could write to congressmen, etc., and try and get it to become a law. I can't imagine it'd pass anytime soon, and it'd be awfully hard to prosecute, because many pregnant women don't look definitively pregnant, and you can always do it in the privacy of your own home/car, but maybe... In some states, it's now illegal to smoke in your car if you're driving children. So, anything's possible. Or, you could try and raise money for ad campaigns describing the dangers. Anyway, there's plenty that you can do, even if it doesn't involve approaching one specific person.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 1:16 PM

We have come a long way. There was a time when women smoked when pregnant - in the 50s and 60s and thought it was fine! Thankfully, we have evolved and this is not socially acceptable behaviour. There are a few stragglers - but they are the expetion, not the rule.

And, chances are, those smoking ladies will give birth to healthy babies, so worry not. Like many women, I have done nothing but be healthy during pregnancy, and suffered miscarriage. And yet there are women who do very taboo things - and there babies survive and are healthy!

All I am saying is, we are getting better, more aware. Please don't fret over these few risky women. They KNOW what they are doing wrong.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 3:11 PM

Child of two smokers, now I'm nearly 40, no bad habits other than french fries, no respiratory, cardiac, or other health problems.

Having smokers for parents is not a death sentence, 12:09 prophet of doom. You must be lots of fun at parties.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 3:14 PM

Oh I'm sure this will go over well....

I'm 38 years old, had my first child when I was 21 (yes, married and on purpose) and I smoked. Did I try to quit, yes but I just couldn't. Went on to have two more babies and yes I smoked with them as well. Come from a middle class family and knew all about the risks, I felt guilty every time I lit up but it still didn't stop me. Thankfully I had 3 healthy children with no respitory issues. However, if you walked up to me, OP, and said anything, I probably would have smacked you. Don't you think I was guilting myself enough for having this addiction without someone like you treating me like I'm some moron who doesn't already know the dangers? Unless you've had an addiction, don't judge others or try to be morally superior because guess what, you're not! I can't stand people like you who think you can "save the world" with all your judgemental thinking. Live and let live, we will be judged when our day comes and the Lord is the one who will do that judging, not you. So, like the other PP's have said, get a frigging life and stay out of others!

Monday, April 28, 2008, 5:50 PM

I hate all that sanctimonious crap! Save the baby by belittling the Mother. Mind you own business. Take care of your own kids. Your so perfect, that every one should be and think like you. Someone should walk up to you and complain about your huge ego blocking all the doors!

Monday, April 28, 2008, 5:56 PM

It's a sad situation when a mother-to-be isn't taking care of her unborn child, but I agree with the other posters: MYOB.

"Everyone knows the dangers of smoking." But incase someone out there doesn't: Both of my parents died prematurely as a direct result of smoking. My mom smoked during 5 pregnancies. All of us kids were born healthy, but one sibling developed adult-onset asthma that his doctor attributes to my parents' second-hand smoke that he inhaled while growing up.

I worked with a gal who smoked during her entire pregnancy. She claimed the doc said quitting during the pregnancy would be "too stressful" on her and the baby. Her new born was unbelievably colicky (sp), screaming day and night for the first 6-8 months at least. I can only assume the baby was going through withdrawal. As a toddler she was diagnosed with asthma, and it is a severe, life-threatening case.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 6:24 PM

Admirable Emotion OP

I think a lot of you MYOB poster aren't understanding the visceral reaction OP is having. It's like watching someone smack their three year old in the face in the grocery store and wanting to DO something

- I think OP's is an amirable emotion - to care about a stranger's child that they are abusing. Sounds like the MYOB's are feeling guilty about something - if I was smacking a kid I would hope someone would say something even on the street. Who cares about laws - there is a level of human fraternity to stop the abuse of an innocent when it is done brazenly in the public square - Isn't that what makes us "civilized"?

Monday, April 28, 2008, 8:29 PM

PP

Abusing their child? Even a physician wouldn't make such a statement/accusation.So if you saw a pregnant woman eating sushi - is that paralel to smacking a kid? Abuse.

Smoking during pregnancy is wrong and can be potentially harmful to your unborn child and this is a terrible thing.

But you 8:29, do you walk around and tell off pregnant women for everything they do they know could potentially harm their baby? Speed in their car? Drink a cup of coffee? Have two glasses of wine with dinner?

Get off your high horse. Like you have never done anything that was unhealthy to yourself or others. Right.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 8:46 PM

Oh, please do try to tell someone off. With any luck, they'll smack you silly and get away with it by blaming it on hormones. Then you get exactly what you deserve for sticking your nose where it doesn't belong: a good dressing-down with a side of fat lip.

Monday, April 28, 2008, 9:16 PM

Abuse is knowingly and willfully doing something that is hurtful to another person so yeah - abuse.

I have an adopted kid brother who will never live on his own b/c his mom decided to drink while pregnant - I love that guy and he COULD have had a normal life but he is so frustrated by his limitations every day! so yeah stuff like that makes me upset. I have accidentally hurt my little son by just not being quite carefull enough around him and knocking him down or whatever - I felt awful.

-what high horse??

All I'm saying is - a caring emotion that makes you want to smack some sense into that lady who is doing something even you call "a terrible thing" to HER OWN BABY makes a lot of sense to me.
I can relate and I think it is good that she doesn't have a cauterized heart toward others.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm

8:29

Monday, April 28, 2008, 9:34 PM

An link to an article on an American study doesn't prove anything completely, but I am sorry for your brother. I don't think its right to compare seeing a woman smoking on the street to what happened to your brother, though. I am not sure how those things are linked

Monday, April 28, 2008, 9:48 PM

Okay... how 'bout:

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/sgr/sgr_2001/highlight_outcomes.htm

or globally

http://www.euro.who.int/HEN/Syntheses/short/20050406_1

better?

Not sure how they are linked? are you serious?

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/5/1722S

Monday, April 28, 2008, 10:10 PM

I think it's really cute how nonsmokers think that by telling a smoker thier opinion it will change the way smokers feel about smoking. Everyone knows about the health risks of smoking. Beating us in the face with it DOES NOTHING BUT MAKES US THINK YOU ARE A PAIN IN THE NECK!! Drinking , tanning, and eating certain foods aren't healthy either but it is up to the person DOING it to stop if they so choose. Unless someone is smoking in your face, I wouldn't say anything to them because they might not like all your parenting skills.

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 4:04 PM

wow, there are a lot of perfect people in this thread. It must be nice to walk through life pointing out other people's flaws, making big deals out of them, and pretending it's okay to judge people like that. I'm sure people think you are very fancy and rightous. People love being told that they are wrong unless they see things your way.

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 4:11 PM

I agree that people should be able to do what they want as long as it harms no one else. Forcing your baby to smoke your cigarettes is harming someone else.

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 4:21 PM

eating chocolate is harmful to your child as well, do you also condemn people for that as well? How about eating spicy foods, or not taking vitamins?

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 4:29 PM

Hello false analogy, PP. The things you mentioned do not cause severe addiction and withdrawal in innocent infants, nor are they directly linked with causing lung cancer and birth defects. Why are you so adamant about preserving something so clearly harmful and completely preventable?

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 4:33 PM

Since smoking gained popularity during, I forget, the first or second World War, and didn't start losing it for health reasons until the 70s, then shouldn't half of us in this forum be riddled with disease and defects if smoking were catastrophically harmful to fetuses? Those who smoke roll the dice, but the odds on the baby being born damaged are stacked in the favor of "healthy".

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 5:04 PM

FIrst of all, caffeine is very addictive. It is also very harmful in large amounts. Especially to an infant. I am not saying pregnant women should smoke...I am saying people should stop making it out like a pregnant smoker is the most aweful person to ever live. Myself, I smoked during pregnancy UNDER A DOCTORS CARE. I was taking paxil when I became pregnant and stopped taking my meds which sent my body into shock (paxil is strong medication for anxiety) I had three miscarraiges from stress related issues. According to my doctor, any more stress on myself or the child would've caused problems. I don't smoke in my home or around my children because I KNOW it isn't healthy.

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 5:09 PM

I'm fascinated at the outrage over the response to being disturbed by someone smoking while pregnant. Not just smoking or stinking up the gym like the other thread that got people all fired up about, but smoking while pregnant. Is it a defense mechanism? They say a person in denial isn't really in denial at all - they're very much aware that what they're doing isn't right/healthy,etc - but they can't outwardly face the truth. To me that makes much more sense than this - oh, leave her alone you high horse, perfect a-holes - mentality here.

And I don't think there has been anyone here who actually suggests going up to a woman and shaming her or pulling the cigarette out of her mouth. Just a general dismay for what she's choosing to do - b/c there's someone else involved. It would be like seeing a woman blowing smoke right in her baby's face. We wouldn't be human if we saw that and just thought, "Hmmm...well, live and let live." Doesn't mean we do anything about it - we just react.

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 7:17 PM

7:17 I that is exactly what I was thinking and could not have said it better myself. - you are so right on on each point.

it is strange that people seem more vicerally upset at this woman being upset than she is upset herself in the first place.

Thursday, May 01, 2008, 8:07 PM

What offends me is the statement that she would've approached this woman for something that doesn't concern her at all. We all make bad choices. I HATE people who are quick to point out something someone else is doing wrong becuase we ALL have flaws. You can't just go around "shaking sense into people". Making threats to do so is just silly. It implies that this person believes thier mistakes aren't as severe and that they are above such flaws. The truth is the severity is in the eyes of the beholder. I'm sure not one person in here would appreciate a stranger analizing thier behavior and judging them in a public forum for something they have done, whether it was wrong or not.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 9:50 AM

that is just so weird, I don't get where that is coming from, are you doing a lot of things you are ashamed of and having people you don't know attack you or what?

Where is this "I HATE" venom coming from?

This woman is just feeeling compassionate toward a defensless child.

I think it is natural and good to have a lot of accountability in your life from the people that you do know and so if someone you don't know gave you a look since you were doing something wrong you would just be like, well, honestly you are right and change, not get all defensive and stuck in your bad ways.

let me guess, you live in a big city where most of the people you encounter are of no consequence to you?

Friday, May 02, 2008, 11:07 AM

Stop with the pop psych crap, you're a lousy amateur shrink trying to put a complex spin on something quite simple.

I'm another "hater" - I hate the way everyone thinks they know better than an expectant or new mom and try to tell her what to do like they're experts even though they don't necessarily have any kids themselves. Blah blah don't eat French brie blah blah breast is best.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 11:19 AM

I'm sorry, smoking while pregnant and that being a not so good thing - is not the simply the opinion of the kidless, non-smoking, and self righteous. And comparing it to cheese and breastfeeding. Silly.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 11:50 AM

Quite simple? how?

I was asking the question and taking a guess...Explain WHY you are so bombastic and venomous about this... I think the OPs side is pretty clear, reasonable and explicable but I've offered the only explaination I can think of for the people who are afraid of and angry about others' criticism.

11:07

Friday, May 02, 2008, 11:53 AM

I guess because I know dozens of now-adult children of smokers and there's a whopping 2 cases of asthma amongst them, no other physical defects or medical problems, and very few of them have picked up the habit themselves. The sanctimonious masses who want to go around feeling superior to a pregnant stranger are beyond pathetic.

Anyway, there's not much point arguing with the same self-important masses who have nothing better than to miscontsrue my arguments. Go lose some weight already.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 12:12 PM

And I know lots of people who drink and get behind the wheel and have yet to get in an accident. Still a bad idea. Still a worthwhile cause to try and get people to stop. And still a behavior that we shouldn't just accept with an 'oh well.'

Friday, May 02, 2008, 12:53 PM

Valiant effort at an analogy, but drunk driving is illegal and pregnant smoking isn't.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 12:59 PM

My Story

Okay, this is my story of why I do not think its right to tell a pregnant woman (stranger) what to do. Judge away, but this is valid.

When I was pregnant, my only sister died. In shock and devastated, I went outside, to the front veranda, and had one cigerette.

That was my only cigerette during my entire pregnancy (or ever, since)

Do all you think it would have been okay for a stranger to walk up to me and tell me what to do?

BTW, my child is so healthy!

Friday, May 02, 2008, 1:02 PM

I don't think anyone has said they want to go up to the pregnant woman and rip the cigarette out of her mouth. Like a PP said, the OP was just stating her concern for the unborn child. I don't think anyone is trying to be high and mighty either, we all make mistakes of course. Someone just pointed out the fact that it bothered them to see this. No it's not illegal and yes it is potentially harmful to the baby.
It's also not illegal to drink while pregnant but we all know that it causes severe problems for some children. It's called Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

So in short I think people are just trying to say that they don't understand why a mother would do anything that can harm her child. Not on a high horse, just wondering why. As an ex-smoker I know how hard it is to quit smoking. But I did it, and I have PLENTY of friends that quit after finding out they were pregnant. It CAN be done.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 1:17 PM

12:12 so your response to make two junenile jabs and argue that it is pretty good odds on that russian roulette ?

-11:53

BTW thanks but I am the skinniest I have been in well over a decade.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 1:44 PM

To the original poster:

despite the backlash that you are getting here - which I don't entirely get but whatever - I think you did the RIGHT thing by coming HERE and getting it off your chest vs. interjecting yourself into her personal life.

Reality is that if she's pregnant and smoking, she already knows the risks and for whatever reason, she's taking them. it may not make her pregnancy of the year, but it doesn't make her an unfit mother either.

I agree it would have been very hard to watch/see but I go back to the beginning, you have to be a special kind of stupid not to know that cigarette's are dangerous, it's not a news bulletin, some people just choose to continue despite those risks. If she doesn't think it's worth her OWN health to quit, it's not likely that she will do it for someone else, not even her own child.

In this part of the world, that's her choice and she has as much rights as we all do to be a parent and to make mistakes as a parent.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 2:02 PM

I grew up in a house with both parents smoking, and neither my brother nor I were ever even interested in trying it. We were lucky. Having said that, and loving my parents despite that, I think any mother who would choose to smoke while pregnant these days is selfish and weak. She knows it's not good for the baby, but she does it anyway. That's a pattern she'll repeat over and over again.....her child will never come in first ahead of that. Somehow I managed to hear and believe my parents when they said that we should not follow in their footsteps, but how many kids actually end up as smokers because of their parents selfishness? Would I have said something to her, probably not, but I figure everyone has a right to be an a$$hole if they so choose.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 2:17 PM

12:59 - you're right (and love the sarcasm -haha). Drunk driving and smoking while pregnant is a bit apples and oranges. In terms of the law, anyway. But, it all comes down to making choices that ain't so smart and impact others. You seem sympathetic toward the person choosing to smoke. My sympathies lie more toward those on the other end who don't have a choice about that behavior. But, hey, c'est la vie. Like you pointed out, it's not illegal, so that must mean something.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 2:52 PM

Well, smoking isn't some kind of death sentence for a baby. I've heard of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, but not Fetal Tabacco Syndrome. Must be a good reason for that, i.e. there's no such thing.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 3:28 PM

PP it's ignorant to think that putting tobacco in your body while pregnant will have NO effect on your child. It's VERY harmful to the person smoking (ever heard of lung cancer?) so why wouldn't it be to the baby?

Come on people, stop trying to rationalize smoking while pregnant. It's not good for the mother, the baby, the people breathing in the second hand smoke. Bottom line. And yes, I used to smoke so I know it's not easy to give up.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 4:11 PM

poster may 2 9:50 here
I actually come from a very small town. I HATE people who judge on an impression because I have been judged for my mother's behavior my whole life. Her bad habits do not run in the family, yet people assume because I am her daughter I must share in her lifestyle. Kind of like your assumption of me from a paragraph comment.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 5:12 PM

5:12 "HATER"-

You can rant like that but you are not addressing anything I actaully said or responding to points
Did you come to this thread to bitch and moan or to converse like an adult?

I'll stick to what I said.
This woman is just FEELING compassionate toward a defensless child.

and I do suspect that all the "haters" in here have something to be ashamed of otherwise why be afraid of / angry at the feelings of strangers toward bad behavior ? ?

-1:44

Friday, May 02, 2008, 5:35 PM

I addressed your assumption. You wanted to know where HATE for people being attacked came in, so I explained myself. If you look at the post, it stated she would've approached this woman had her son not been with her.That is not just feeling compassion. You don't take people standing up for themselves very well, do you? Put your big girl panties on and quit attacking people to make yourself validated. I will never agree with you and you will never agree with me. If you would like to keep throughing your hissy fit that is fine, but I am not going to answer you because I think you need a time out.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 5:50 PM

wow that was a mature and well resoned riposte.

You still didn't answer my nice questions:
You hate her because "she would've approached this woman " - WHY?
What does "people standing up for themselves " have to do with this senario except that the woman had an instinct to stand up for that unborn child?

I love you too.

-1:44

Friday, May 02, 2008, 6:02 PM

Thanks, I try.

No really, I was being a bit of a turd in the previous comment and for that I apologize. I should've just said that you were not being very nice.

I don't hate her. I hate the situation. Mainly because I feel that maybe she has a right to feel whatever she wants, however under no circumstance did she have a right to "shake some sense" into this women, which she said she would've done had her son not been there. The idea of that is offensive. Perhaps I overreacted to the statement and took it too literally. I suppose my response is...she should've done exactly what she did. Nothing.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 6:10 PM

1:44, could you just go attention-seeking elsewhere, like in the real world? Or have you pissed off everyone there too? Your string of excuses to position yourself as morally superior to anyone else is getting more pathetic by the hour.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 9:38 PM

Okay seriously...I was being polite, you just described yourself to the T!! TROLL!! I'm off to chat with people who are here to lose weight, support each other, and have a debate every now and then without being reduced to name calling. You my friend, are a complete jerk. Nice chatting with ya.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 10:30 PM

I smoked while I was pregnant. I tried to stop but it's a lot harder than you think. I think that before you judge somebody you should know their circumstances. I stopped a lot of other things that were really bad and smoking cigarettes was my only vice. Now that my son is born, I don't smoke anywhere around him.

Friday, May 02, 2008, 10:40 PM

lol i agree

Friday, May 02, 2008, 10:45 PM

drinking while pregnant and smoking while pregnant are completely different. I would be irritated if I saw someone drinking while pregnant too, but I would still keep my mouth shut, well probably

Friday, May 02, 2008, 11:14 PM

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