Waxing - do you tip yopur estetican?

I am so confused, I am a student and I always tip my hairdresser but I don't know if I should tip a person who waxes my legs?

If you do tip, how much?

Thank you so much.

Fri. Jul 20, 11:28am

Yes. 20%

Friday, July 20, 2007, 1:10 PM

Yes I tip 20-25%...she keeps my face looking good!

Friday, July 20, 2007, 2:40 PM

I work at a hair salon and I say yes you should tip your estetican because they work just as hard as a stylist! =)

Friday, July 20, 2007, 3:00 PM

Absolutely...anyone who provides a service should be tipped...20%

Friday, July 20, 2007, 3:47 PM

In relation to this topic what really ticks me off anymore is a tip jar just about anywhere you go like a deli counter, drive through car wash where they towel it dry for you, or sandwich shop, chinese restaurant, etc... where you go up, order your food, they cook it, and you take it home. No serving involved. No real service other than giving you your food just like at McDonalds. Many of these are things you are paying for anyway. That ticks me off. I am not cheap, but not everyone deserves a tip. Hair stylists, waxers, etc... yes.

Saturday, July 21, 2007, 1:06 AM

1:06

Amen! I am not cheap either, but walking up to an ice cream window where the persons' job is to get you an ice cream and then having to tip them for doing their job is absolutely outrageous! These tip jars are turning up everywhere NOT just the service industry.

Saturday, July 21, 2007, 2:15 PM

Tipping

I work in a spa, and would say that 98% of patrons tip their ethesticians. Anywhere from 10-20%.

Saturday, July 21, 2007, 3:57 PM

Oh the tip jars. I hate these. You know I already pay way too much for a drip coffee and they want me to tip for this, for what, pulling a lever and putting a lid on my cup. I think not. I do not tip on take out of any kind, your already paying for the food to be made and your not getting service. I always tip my stylist, the maids at a hotel, which 90% of people don't do, and why not. People go into a hotel room and live like they would not at their own house and then expect it to be cleaned. Yes these damn tip jars drive me crazy.

Saturday, July 21, 2007, 9:22 PM

Tipping in the US

As a visitor to the US it was a shock to see all the tip boxes, like begger boxes,
and further shocked to twice being asked to produce more tip or else did I have a complaint. Being shouted at for lack of tip after an automatic car wash by person who hosed the wheels down before entering; it was also the most expensive car wash I'd ever come across but in no other country does one tip for such service. I totally understand tipping for personal service and service above and beyond expectation, but it might be far better to negotiate a living wage instead of relying on the mood of a customer to pay your wages. The whole tipping system is degrading to both service provider and customer.
Now I know to budget another 20% or not visit.

Saturday, July 21, 2007, 10:06 PM

Tipping

Remember it's not a requirement to put money in a tip jar. They don't begrudge you in any way if you don't. The majority of these people get paid dirt anyhow. They also have to deal with more crap from uppity people and scumbags alike for minimum wage. So what? They can't have an extra $10 a week because they're not roasting your coffee beans or personally seasoning your chicken sandwich? They have to open/close and clean up the store and after YOUR mess and provide you with a product that they still have to prepare in some way. That's service to me.

Tuesday, March 09, 2010, 2:15 PM

We're talking about someone who puts hot wax on you. Of course you tip them ~ or never go to them a second time. Seriously ~ do not scrimp on tipping someone who uses a weapon on you.

Tuesday, March 09, 2010, 3:27 PM

2:15 ~ we aren't talking about the Starbucks barista, we're talking about a service professional. They don't get paid minimum wage. Your tirade is inappropriate to the subject matter.

Tuesday, March 09, 2010, 3:29 PM

10:06 p.m. I totally agree with you.

Tuesday, March 09, 2010, 10:37 PM

As a visitor I am also blown away by these begging boxes. Im sorry, but its your job to hose the wheels or clean up the store. Simple as that. If you go the extra mile, then Im more than happy to show my appreciation by giving you something extra, at my discretion. However, Im not responsible for your basic salary.

Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:32 AM

Dear 6:32 am Visitor ~ as you are a "visitor" I'll explain a sincere downfall in our government. We have a two tier minimum wage system. One tier is for non-service personnel who do not necessarily work with the public. Their wages are set higher because there's no chance for earning any extra money except the occasional hour of over-time. The second tier is "service personnel" those that work at restaurants, car washes, etc. Those people are in a wage bracket over $5 less than non-service personnel because TIPS are expected. Yes, even the government expects you to tip your waitress. At last check minimum wage for service personnel was $2.12 versus non-service at $7.75. YES, that's over $5.50 an hour less if you are a waitress or car wash employee. So while you may be offended by tip boxes, which are used to divide the tips equally among all that work the front, blame the government, not the poor guy that has to get your coffee order right or dry your car without streaks less you scream at their manager for doing it WRONG.

So, dear visitor, in the eyes of our government, it is your responsibility to assist with minimum wage service employee's "basic salary."

Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 9:17 AM

6.32 visitor here. Wow thanks for the explanation, very clear, I had no idea that was the case in the US! Are most people in favour of this system? It seems rather unfair to my mind, both to the employee and the client.
PS I would never scream at anyone for doing anything wrong, but then again, why should I have to tip someone who gets my order wrong, or leaves my car streaky?
PPS Today, the petrol attendant who filled up my car also offered to check my oil & water, and my tyre pressure. I said oil & water is fine thanks, but please check my tyres, which he did, and reported back the pressure that they were (both front tyres were under the correct pressure) He then proceeded to wash my front and back windscreens. NOW, thats what I call service!! I left him a nice fat tip, well deserved.

Thursday, March 11, 2010, 5:09 AM

Most of us do not like the tier system for minimum wage. It is highly unfair and antiquated. I'd rather not have to tip people and have them paid by the employer, but that would raise food prices at restaurants and no one wants that. And there's the problem. No one wants food prices raised so they settle for the lower minimum for the workers and just tip out of habit.

Thursday, March 11, 2010, 8:39 AM

So, if you should tip 'service personnel' who only make a couple of bucks an hour, then why should I tip my hairdresser who charges $XX for my haircut? She's not getting paid per hour, she charges a set rate for each service.

Friday, March 12, 2010, 2:37 PM

Hair dressers are not "service personnel" covered under minimum wage guidelines. They do not receive anything that is set. The salon charges them booth rent but then sets the costs of the hair cuts. After booth rent there are weeks these women make nothing. There are weeks they make grocery money.

Hair dressers, esteticans, manicurists, they don't make minimum wage anything. That's not the type of "service personnel" the government defines under minimum wage guidelines. That's why you tip your hair dresser. The only time you do not tip your hairdresser is when she's the owner of the salon.

Friday, March 12, 2010, 4:05 PM

2:37 ~ the hair dresser doesn't charge the set amount, the salon does.

Friday, March 12, 2010, 4:06 PM

I don't care who charges! All i know is that i pay for what i get! If they are underpaid then they should consider changing their job? I mean it is not enough hairdressers and beautician charge like hell already? I have to give them more? Who's going to give me more? I am SO against tips! Even in restaurants! What is it with tips anyway! I am a doctor and i do my job and it's something more than a job and nobody tips me for doing it! I would be insulted if someone did because i am paid for doing this job and i knew how much i would get before choosing this job. So why should i tip the waiter/hairdresser/beautician??? I do not mean to be rude or insult anyone but this is how i see things. Do you find this wrong?

Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:11 PM

9:11 sounds like you should just go to the $5 barber shop and only eat at McDonalds. Maybe that would make you happy. For a person in a greedy profession, you sure are stingy. Of course, you probably bill $5 for an asprin and $10 for a bandaid, and then complain that you have to tip a waitress.

Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:51 PM

9:51 i have been studying most of my life making loans to complete my studies and after all these years of struggle i now enjoy what i am allowed to enjoy. I have not had a family due to my endless studying and focus on my career. So i think i am allowed to enjoy the fruits now and not require from anyone to give me more than i am paid. Therefore, I do not tip anyone. Everyone should be paid from their employers and do not expect charity from customers. Also, this tipping thing maximizes social classifications depending on how much you can tip. And this i don't like. And yes i don't tip not because i am stingy but because i think it is an ill tradition that i no longer wish to see happening.

Saturday, March 13, 2010, 7:30 AM

7:30 am ~ you might have actually had me fooled that you might be a doctor with your previous post but your horrific grammar in the second post shows that you're just full of it and medical knowledge and intelligence are not what you are full of either.

Saturday, March 13, 2010, 8:00 AM

8:00 did you ever consider i am not a f***ing american? You f***ing idiot.

Saturday, March 13, 2010, 12:34 PM

8:00 could you please point out what the horrific grammar errors were in 7:30's post because i have failed to spot them.? Thank you.

Saturday, March 13, 2010, 12:39 PM

12:34 the only thing anyone should consider is that you are not a doctor based on your behaviour, your attitude, and your obvious lack of common decency and courtesy. If you "aren't American" why are you participating in a discussion about American minimum wage and tipping in America?

Saturday, March 13, 2010, 1:01 PM

1:01 because he/she may like to see how stupid you guys can be?

Saturday, March 13, 2010, 2:30 PM

8:00 AM - So 7:30 didn't capitalize a few "I"s and omitted a few commas. Big deal.

Yes, you aren't claiming to be a doctor, but your grammar was worse. Your entire post was a run-on sentence.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 7:58 PM

This is 2:37 about tipping hairdressers.

4:05 and 4:06 Not all hair salons run the way they do in the part of the country where you live. At the salon I patronize, the hair dressers set their own prices.

4:05 Your reason for why to tip hairdressers was unclear. It appears that you think they should be tipped because they don't make minimum wage and are not service personnel. Maybe you were referring to the beginning of your post where you spoke of them not making any money because of booth rental fees.

My hairdresser IS the owner of the salon. So according to you, she should not be tipped. That is ridiculous to me. If you are the type to hip hairdressers, shouldn't it be based on their performance? NOT whether they rent or own?

Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 8:18 PM

8:18 ~ you assume that people replying live only in one place. There are a lot of people in this world that move around and live in a lot of different places and know things outside of their little homes.

It is common tip etiquette to not tip the owner of a salon. I've attached a link that states specific tip etiquette and it clearly states "Salon Owner: NONE" It's not about "logic" it's about standard etiquette and practices.

Link

Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 8:26 PM

I don't believe in any tip etiquette and no one should especially in such critical times in terms of the economy. Those who can afford to tip are a different story.

Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:18 AM

8:00 AM I can't find any horrific grammar errors on the Dr's post. Even the commas are there! Am I missing something?

Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:22 AM

So all this tipping is tax free?? And this is acceptable?

Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:35 AM

No, 7:35, tipping is NOT tax free. You have to report your tips and restaurants are required to put them on your check stub.

Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:51 AM

So, 7:18, you have no problem going out to a restaurant and making the waitstaff do their jobs but you think you can be a jerk and not leave a tip "because of the economy." If your personal economical situation is such that you can't "afford" to tip, then you shouldn't be going out in the first place.

Tip etiquette has been around for longer than the current economy and it will be there long after. If you act like a jerk now "because of the economy" people will remember for longer than you. If I were you, I certainly wouldn't go to the same restaurant more than once if you don't tip. Trust me on that one. And don't even think about not tipping a hairdresser and then using her again. That's a person with scissors.

Tipping goes beyond today, it goes into the future. And how you tip today could reflect on the service you receive in the future.

Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:55 AM

This is 8:18 (and 2:37)

8:26 I did not make any 'assumption'. You should not be so presumptuous. 4:05 and 4:06 made broad statements that salons set the rates, not the hairdressers. While this may be a general practice, 'they' were the ones who 'assumed' that all salons operate in the same manner. I pointed out that they are wrong.

It would be a sad, stagnant world if people did not think logically when it comes to standards, etiquette, and traditions. The very website you referred to stated that there are "no set rules" about tipping.

I recommend that everyone use logical, common sense.

If you choose to tip, fine!

If you choose not to tip, fine!

If you are a heavy tipper, will you get better service? Yes, that is the way of this world. However, people should be treated with common decency no matter what. If a person doing their job decides to get revenge on a customer for not tipping, it will backfire. They will most likely be fired for their lack of character. Word will spread of the revenge, the business will lose customers, and I'll bet that beauticians can lose their licenses.

Thursday, March 18, 2010, 1:27 PM

Dear Repetitive Poster ~ "common decency" is not defined as "good service." As long as you are served, you've been treated decently. Your food may be cold by the time you get it or it may take longer to get it or even be able to order but as long as you eventually get served, you've been treated with "common decency." You seem to think that it's okay not to tip and then be served promptly and that you deserve "common decency" but you care not to give it back. TIPS ~ To Insure Prompt Service. You choose not to tip, you don't earn prompt service. That's just all there is to it.

Additionally, you did make several assumptions and you did it again in your most recent posting. Assuming that it's okay not to tip? Not okay at all.

Thursday, March 18, 2010, 2:29 PM

To 7:22 who wants to know about the doctor's 'horrific' grammar. I am not 8:00, but I'll answer your question. It was not horrific, just simple errors. The only real problems were the first and last sentences. Corrections or omissions are in parenthesis. A simple explanation is in brackets.

"(I) have been studying most of my life making loans to complete my studies(;) and after all these years of struggle(,) (I) now enjoy what (I) am allowed to enjoy." [This was a compound sentence that could have been two sentences. To keep it as one sentence and be clearly understood, more punctuation was needed.]

"And yes (I) don't tip not because (I) am stingy(,) but because (I) think it is an ill tradition that (I) no longer wish to see happening." [The latter part of this sentence is a dependent clause, and the sentence is more clearly understood with a comma.]

**I am not a professional expert. I simply enjoy good grammar. The sentences could have been corrected to be better, but I tried to keep them as close to the author's original as possible and still have correct grammar.

Thursday, March 18, 2010, 2:41 PM

Seriously?

I am saddened that the wonderful world of Peer Trainer has been tainted with this garbage of "your grammar stinks" and "you must or must/not tip" whomever. Seriously? You want to fight about these things? No wonder the word is such a screwed up place.

Thursday, March 18, 2010, 3:16 PM

Btw, 2:41 is NOT bashing the person who claimed to be a doctor. I stood up for 7:30 in an earlier post, saying it wasn't a bid deal. Several posts had asked what they were, so I answered.

Thursday, March 18, 2010, 3:53 PM

2:41 ~ you don't "make" loans, you take out a loan. If the "doctor" was making the loans, he'd be giving the money away.

Also, there is a comma that is missing after the "And yes" and, lest we forget, it is improper grammar to start a sentence with the word "and."

That said, the grammar issue should have been dropped completely as opposed to even being addressed.

3:16 ~ PT has said any thread is welcome, so a thread about tipping would be welcome. In these economic times, a thread about money is not going to be pleasant. There will be service workers completely offended by someone who refuses to tip especially someone who claims to be more than able to tip just too cheap to do so.

Thursday, March 18, 2010, 4:06 PM

2:29 - My 'common decency' referred to that it is not okay for those providing a service to get revenge on a customer who does not tip. 8:55 implied that a person who does not tip should not return to that business because they would be treated so badly.

I do not agree with your idea that a customer has to earn prompt service by providing a tip. I think, and probably most people do, that the waitstaff (etc) should earn the tip by providing good and prompt service.

I never, ever said that I do not tip. I do tip. I just said that I do not tip my hairdresser. She charges X amount for a haircut, and that is what I pay her.

I did say that I think it is fine for people to choose to not tip. WHY? Because this is a free country, and the people in this country have the right to make their own decisions. We are supposed to be tolerant. Should they expect exceptional service? No. Should they get average service? YES. Should they be punished? NO NO NO!!!

Please fill me in on what my 'several assumptions' are in my first two postings (2:37 and 8:18).

Thursday, March 18, 2010, 4:10 PM

F**k off! the person's grammar was fine! This is a forum and a sh***y website and time is money and we can write as sh***y as we want and stop with the grammar nazzi and my post is full of grammar errors and i don't give a sh*t and I dont give a sh*t! F*ck off all!

Friday, March 19, 2010, 12:49 PM

12:49 ~ wake up on the wrong side of the bed? I really wish I knew how to report someone like you.

Friday, March 19, 2010, 1:39 PM

Ditto on reporting this person. We are civilized adults. We don't need to swear at each other. Come on, I'm sure you were raised better than that.

Monday, March 22, 2010, 1:57 PM

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