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Would you vote for Hillary Clinton?
I have to ask my fellow health and fitness goers as I believe since we're committed to bettering ourselves, I'd like to see who will "better our country". I think I would actually vote for Hilary at this point.
Wed. Sep 26, 10:58am
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 11:08 AM
PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON
Absolutely! I am feeling charged and hopeful about her. She's seasoned, INTELLIGENT (omg how we need THAT quality in presidential leadership right now!!!), and she has great ideas.
I am ready for a woman as president too. Many other countries have gotten this together. I can't understand why a "progressive" society like ours has not been able to pull this off. We make up MORE than half the population.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 11:12 AM
our so-called progressive society mimicks the catholic hierarchy in so many ways. putting women behind the scenes is just one example.
i'd loooove to see hilary in the white house again, as president! and with obama on her ticket as vice president!!
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 11:17 AM
she's the only one i am voting for! i am voting for her not because i am democrat, not because i think it's time for a woman to be in the president's seat, but because her goals for this country are right on the money. someone's got a big job ahead of them when elected to clean up what the bush left behind.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 11:20 AM
Are you kidding? Of course, it's a 2 for 1 deal. Having Bill back will be great.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 11:23 AM
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:01 PM
I think I just threw up in my mouth...NO Never!!!
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:58 PM
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 1:07 PM
wouldn't bill make a great first lady! he can bring his cigars over anytime! at least he had the economy where it was supposed to be and didn't invade countries we shouldn't have been in because they threadened his father years ago.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 1:22 PM
I agree with the 11:23 poster that having Bill as the helper would be good for America.. I'm not crazy about her though.. And I don't know enough about her politics to say yay or nay yet..
I do like Fred Thompson and I'm not a Republican and I am not afraid to say that the reason I like him is because I am a Law & Order addict..lol That doesn't mean he definitely gets my vote but if I don't like anyone else and no one stands out, he may win my vote by default..lol
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 1:43 PM
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 2:44 PM
Don't be fooled by Clinton. She is too tightly connected to the lobbiests. Vote KUCINICH!
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 2:52 PM
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 3:04 PM
i've written her name in since 1988.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 3:11 PM
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 5:30 PM
My vote is for ANYBODY but Hilary. I'm ready for a woman president but I want the first one to be a woman I can respect, and who doesn't measure her success by how well she acts like a man. Also, couldn't our first First Mister be someone who would inagurate the position with some dignity and respect? Who wants the scandals to overshadow the important business of our country again?
Condy Rice anyone?
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 6:45 PM
i don't think we'll have a woman president until people quit voting for a person because of her sex - and i say this as a woman. several posters here seem to indicate that they would vote for hillary simply because she is a woman. we won't have a woman president (or black, or hispanic, etc, etc) until people see their positions, credibility, and experience without seeing their race, sex, etc. as long as someone votes for hillary just because she is a woman, someone else will vote against her for the same reason. you can't vote someone into office because of something totally unrelated to how they will do the job. and that applies to the white men too.
as for hillary - i'm from arkansas and sick of the clintons. after bill was elected as president, most all the people associated with his governorship were arrested and/or disbarred due to numerous scandals, fraud, and illegal activites. the lieutenant governor (jim guy tucker) was heavily involved. and miraculously they all got pardoned as well. you can't tell me the clintons were the only people in that administration who didn't have a hand in the scandals.
just say NO to the clintons. plus i'm tired of the bush / clinton alternating presidency. who would be after hillary? jeb bush?
and those opinions have nothing to do with democrat / republican, so don't even go there.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 7:08 PM
Honestly I'll take just about anyone over who we have now.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 7:36 PM
yes yes si da oui !
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 7:43 PM
stick another woman up there and I'll vote for her. no hillary.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 9:01 PM
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 10:44 PM
I'd much rather see C. Rice!
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 6:50 AM
I'd like to hear more specifics about why some of you dislike Hillary -- ie, what is wrong with her policy ideas? Everyone (myself included for awhile) seems to have very emotional responses to her personality, after she was demonized in the media years ago. Can you put your finger on WHY you dislike her? For instance, my FIL just told me that he wouldn't vote for her because she's "a tough nut" who SWEARS too much (!) Seems like a woman candidate just can't win -- accused of being either a soft female or a bitchy harridan.
And to the fan of Fred Thompson -- I'd like to respectfully suggest that if we want candidates who will be honest with us, perhaps we want to AVOID slick, charismatic actors for awhile! Maybe the slightly awkward, occasionally mis-stepping candidates are a little safer, warts and all. -- Good advice for picking a bf too, IMO :)
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 10:29 AM
Yes. I think she's a strong solid candidate with a wealth of experience.
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 10:29 AM
I know she is smart as a whip, but I get a sense from her that her smarts are really in the form of "I know what's best for you"- very typical of the Yalie types I know.
She seems to lack this core vision or mission. Bill Clinton had this "thats just not right" approach to things. It was very real, and human and I think it helped him get stuff done as president. At the end of the day, after all the sound bites and political bs is out of the way, we are hiring a CEO. What they think matters less than what they can actually do. It takes special skills to get things done. That is why I am pulling for a guy like Rudy, while he makes me cringe personally, he has a stellar track record. I'd also be open to any of the Democratic governors of western/southern states. Unfortunately those guys are shut out and we are stuck with a bunch of Democratic Senators. Senators don't do anything, don't run anything which is why they don't become president!
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 10:41 AM
1) I don't like her philosophy of bigger government. Every program the gov. has tried to "fix" has just gotten more messed up and now unable to run without the government "helping". My personal experience is with the Farm Programs that everyone gripes about. At my core I don't believe that the gov. should subsidise (sp) farmers, but now that they have messed up the free market system in agriculture, farmers need subsidies to help them survive. As an uninsured selfemployed female farmer I shudder to think what will happen if the gov. takes over health care. And if they do, there will be no going back, because then they will have killed off all the market driven checks and balances. I do agree that health care needs reform. Too many uninsured under cared for individuals. But the truely poor are taken care of already if they choose to use the system. And we that are called the "working poor" Are striving to be able to afford insurance. (Incedently I don't consider myself poor, we have all the things we need, we just can't swing health insurance)
2)I am pro life
3)She is a woman and I am a woman and that is all we have in common. She does not represent any of my core values. I don't think it takes a village to raise a child, it takes a family. The village supports, but the family is where the child should learn character and values. Not the school.
I will admit that my dislike of her as a candidate is mostly viseral (sp). I think she is corupt, coarse, and has an explosive temper. None of those qualities are appropriate for a president.
P.S. I'm in a line of work that is mostly men, agriculture, and I know that you can do the work of a man without losing your femininity.
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 10:53 AM
Would I vote for Clinton? Sure- the choices on the republican side are all uniformly unimpressive to me, so, I'd vote for Clinton if it came down to Clinton vs One of the guys the republicans are running right now...
BUT: I'd prefer to vote for someone new. If Clinton is elected, we will have either a bush or a clinton in the white house for over 28 years in a row (if you count bush one's vice precidency)
Man, I would love the chance to vote for Obama.
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 12:22 PM
I have no clue who I'm going to vote for yet. I'm a big supported of gay marriage and women's reproductive freedom so those are two issues that absolutely make or break it for me.
Aside from that, I'm not really impressed with anyone beyond that yet and I'm waiting for them to show me what they really stand for. Hillary is ok-I did like Bill Clinton so I agree having him back in the white house would not be a bad thing, but I'm not going to vote for her for that reason alone. I think she is a strong, competent woman and it would be great to finally have a woman in office. However, I'm not sure she is the right woman for the job at this time. I get a sense that she is power hungry for that reason alone.
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 1:02 PM
I'll make a point that has not been raised yet- certain people hated Bill Clinton, viscerally loathed him. Same thing with Bush, there was a visceral hatred by a vocal segment. I don't see Hillary creating that same loathing. She has neutralized herself and even made inroads into the right. Other than her health care thing (which she is only bringing up to distract the anti-war lunatics on the far left), she is pretty down the middle and where the average independent is. And those folks determine the elections.
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 2:47 PM
2:47 - hillary did not become middle-of-the-road until she decided to run for president. look at her previous record before she had her eye on the presidency.
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 7:33 PM
Heck NO! I'm from NY and I don't even want her here.
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 8:34 PM
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 11:06 PM
No I would not either, but I would vote for Condoleezza Rice. I am not against a woman President but I trust Hillary as far as I could throw her.
Thursday, September 27, 2007, 11:07 PM
Friday, September 28, 2007, 8:11 AM
Poster Thursday 8:47 I think you are mistaken about how people feel about Hillary. look at some of the posts here. Most are polite about it but I don't think I am the only one who loaths Hillary. Only slightly less than Bill.
Monday, October 01, 2007, 3:52 AM
I am half-and-half on my party leanings, but if Hillary was my choice on Democrat, I'd vote Republican. Although I am a woman and I am VERY eager to see a woman take the office, I'm not eager for THAT woman.
Monday, October 01, 2007, 10:38 AM
And I have to add a really bad (butfunny) joke...
-Did you hear about the KFC Hillary Clinton special?
-It's great! Includes 2 left wings, 2 small breasts and 2 large thighs. :D
Mmk end joke.
Monday, October 01, 2007, 10:40 AM
IMHO: not funny, just sexist and mean.
Monday, October 01, 2007, 10:42 AM
Monday, October 01, 2007, 1:13 PM
yep! she's got my vote.
Monday, October 01, 2007, 1:22 PM
10:42 poster, Do you mean to tell me that you never tell Bush jokes? I (a Bush supporter) can even laugh at some of them. The joke was funny.
PS What does IMHO mean? Thanks
Monday, October 01, 2007, 6:47 PM
NO NO NO
Tuesday, October 02, 2007, 11:27 AM
I would not vote for her, she voted for the Iraq War and now wants millitary action in Iran if need be.... no thanks we dont need more wars and more people in the world against us.
Tuesday, October 02, 2007, 4:07 PM
No, never, ever, no, not, can't, won't, shall not, EVER.
Hillary Clinton is a socialist. America spent billions of dollars and fought two wars in SE Asia to prevent the spread of communism, which is a socialist form of government. Why would I want to elect her?
Being a woman is not enough. I am a man and would vote for a woman if qualified. I would probably vote for Condy Rice if she ran. I'd even consider voting for a moderate liberal woman. But Hillary Clinton is a wolf in sheep's clothing. She has very aptly taken moderate positions since her presidential candidacy became certain. However, her track record (even as first lady) has been VERY MUCH in favor of big government. Most notably her health care reform balogney.
Tuesday, October 02, 2007, 4:19 PM
Wednesday, October 03, 2007, 11:16 AM
You could not pay me to vote for her.
I think she is a fake. She just wants to get the votes and is willing to say anything to people to get to the White House.
And to the poster that asked what IMHO means it is In My Honest Opnion.
Wednesday, October 03, 2007, 2:40 PM
Very cute. Sounds like someone has been listening to Glen Beck. He was ranting endlessly about Socialists yesterday.
Wednesday, October 03, 2007, 3:22 PM
yes! yes! yes! a million times!
Wednesday, October 03, 2007, 8:06 PM
the reality is that our healthcare is mostly socialized anyway- between the employer and the government, rationing care is a reality in any network. The best doctors can make better cash out of network- try getting an appointment for minor back surgery.It can take months to get on the calendar.
Wednesday, October 03, 2007, 8:31 PM
hillary is a big supporter of AIPAC (American Israeli Lobby group) and I am not for anyone who supports israel
Thursday, October 04, 2007, 12:23 PM
How odd, I didn't even know the Israelies were an issue! I do admit to being a little naive.
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 12:10 PM
I'm not for the Israelis either- I am rooting for the Islamic terrorists. Because Israel makes me feel bad as a muslim- they are so successful, and we are not, we must destroy them to retrieve our self-esteem.
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 2:11 PM
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 4:26 PM
This is the first presidential election, or any election period, that I will be allowed to vote in... Id have to say, my vote will not be going to Mrs. Clinton.
I would vote republican before voting for Hillary!
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 4:34 PM
Yes. She wouldn't be my first choice, but YES, she can she do it? YES
Do we NEED a Democrat in the White House? YES!!!
oh, btw, re: the Condy Rice suggestion? Lying about a war isn't a scandal that bothers you????????
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 7:55 PM
maybe, depends on what she really has plans to do, and if I believe she can achieve them
Tuesday, October 09, 2007, 8:26 PM
Yes, definitely. She's been through the 'wars" and seems like she could build consensus.
Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 12:00 AM
I'm on the anyone but Hillary commitee
Friday, October 12, 2007, 1:56 PM
Absolutely not!!! If I wanted to live in a socialist country I would move to Canada. Maybe that is what everyone who thinks that this country should be socialist or communist should do, MOVE!!
Friday, October 12, 2007, 3:21 PM
america was founded on the principle of being allowed to think for oneself and to voice those beliefs. if we all held the same beliefs, we would lose the soul of america. it's the differences that we each bring to the 'table' that make this country wonderful.
Friday, October 12, 2007, 3:25 PM
Rudy all the way. I want someone who is on the side of America, not a bunch of whining liberals who cry whenever their loser candidate loses (carter, mondale, dukakis, kerry)
Friday, October 12, 2007, 3:26 PM
No! I do not like Hilary Clinton. I believe she is out of order.
Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:38 PM
I feel a little vomit every time I think of her! So NO I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR HER!!
Saturday, October 13, 2007, 2:04 PM
Saturday, October 13, 2007, 8:34 PM
Yes! She's smart as hell and is the best candidate to run this country.
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 12:58 AM
Oh thank GOD for all the NOs here!!!! I'm ready for a woman chief but not her! CR would be awesome! I am hoping that next election she will run.
I honestly believe that Clinton doesn't really have the experience we need our president to have. I mean really look at the shit she's put up with in her private life, personally I want someone I know will stand up for herself/himself.
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 2:27 AM
for all the "Hell Yeah!" Condie Rice responses we have had...I wonder WHY you feel that she's got the qualifications. Just because the dems have a woman running why do you feel you have to contradict with a rep. woman?
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 2:35 AM
it is so cute that women think that voting against Clinton is a good thing.
Why can't we, at least, agree that having a female President would be a great thing. No one in office is going to change THAT MUCH. Why cant we just unite on this one thing?
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 2:42 AM
I am so freakin happy that there are so many NOs!! Hillary has to be the most close minded, say what's directly in front of me, ride on the coattails of my husband, out of line and out of her mind candidate ever! HIlarycare has to tbe most ridiculous idea ever! Somebody's gonna pay for healthcare, it ain't gonna be free!!! Rudy or Mitt all the way!!!
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 9:47 AM
I'd rather live in a socialist country that the dictatorship we live in now under Bush, he has made such a bad name for Republicans, I don't think it is possible to elect another Republican at this time due to him.
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 9:49 AM
Look at the results, not the gender.
Some very good posts in this thread. I think it is very important to 'forget' about the gender and just look at the person and mainly, what is her past record and is the person somebody you feel you can trust or is it all 'just PR' to get into the White House.
On a personal level, Hillary gives me the creeps, my gut feeling tells me she is not trust worthy. But this is neither here nor there, except that I know I will need to get the facts really well down before voting and a lot of research and not just hear-say and TV news!
How people can be so against Bill I do not understand, he did GOOD for this country and this country was flourishing under him. Period. Hillary? Has she done REALLY good this far?
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 11:32 AM
As a New Yorker I am disappointed in her, she hasn't followed through on any of the things she said she wanted to see change. She really hasn't done anything. I think if it was a gender thing, I would rather see Rice in office and I'm a dem. She has a good record is extremely intelligent and in my eyes has proved herself. On a personal level I don't think this nation is ready for a female chief. I also think whatever female is in charge should have some sort of military experience. I like Rudy, he is sort of both on issues and I sort of like Obama but he is too inexperienced. And if any of you remember Clinton closed many military bases and put an end to a lot of our intelligence agencies, which I thought was a huge mistake. If we want to stay the best nation in the world we need to know what is going on. More funding for social programs isn't the answer to know what other countries are doing. And if anyone who lives here thinks that we have it bad in this country go live in another country! We live in the best country in the world, we have it really good here compared to many other places. I really think if you disagree you should go live somewhere else for 2 years and then see how you feel.
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 11:53 AM
uhm... I lived for 40 years in other countries, (of which were 5 in France and 1 in Germany and A LOT of travel throughout of Europe and many in Switzerland) and I have to say you are fooling yourself if you think the USA is the sugar topping and the best country in the world, it just isn't, it has MANY flaws, starting from minimal wages which are a joke to this war in Iraq which has caused nothing good but pain and a huge debt - there IS good in this country, but don't fool yourself into thinking it is the best.
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 12:11 PM
Vote for Hillary
Unfortunately I don't think this country (the average Joe) is ready to vote in a woman (or a black). I am a liberal. I hope Hillary is not nominated, as I think it will be the death for progressives. It will allow a conservative to be elected as our next president, not because Hillary is a bad candidate, but because she is a woman. Are people so naive in this country to think that the "ranch hand" in Montana etc. will vote for a woman? Let's get real. The Democrats have to come up with someone the Republicans really fear. And I don't think that is Hillary, because they know people are not ready to vote in a woman.
It is a shame we have to think this way, but we must have a candidate that most Americans will consider. I don't think most people are willing to elect a woman or a black. Sorry.
ps. Hillary is also beholden to lots of big money interests. And that means there will be too much payback time if she were elected.
Monday, October 15, 2007, 11:40 AM
I think it's pathetic that in this day and age and country that gender is still an issue.
Monday, October 15, 2007, 12:04 PM
12:11- Europeans are hypocrites, racists and facists. Scratch the surface beyond whatever veneer they put up in their rhetoric and you'll find people as a whole who are reactionary and ready to kill every jew and muslim in sight. American's might be too wide eyed about things, but we blow Europe away in terms of moral fabric.
Monday, October 15, 2007, 1:29 PM
Ditto 1:29, from someone who spent nearly a decade amongst them.
Monday, October 15, 2007, 2:01 PM
Would I vote for Hillary Clinton
Saturday, November 14, 2009, 8:36 AM
I used to be a huge fan of hers. Now I am just disgusted with all these professional pols. Vote them ALL OUT!!!
Saturday, November 14, 2009, 9:15 AM
Geez. Who dug this thread up from 2007???
Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:44 AM
She couldn't do worse then Obama. I'd vote for sarah!
Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:37 PM
I would have voted for Hillary, I did vote for Obama and I would not vote for Palin. It's interesting to see how we feel a year later and some.
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