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anyone out there agree with obama?

Sat. Apr 12, 9:48pm

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do we agree to the comments taken out of context??? No, but I am afraid that many americans are ridiculously dogmatic and that their knee jerk response does get as basic as what Obama is alluding to. How else could this "war on terrorism" ever have gotten this far, and how could McCain even be considered reputable when he makes comments like "I will follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell".

Saturday, April 12, 2008, 10:15 PM

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Whether or not they were taken out of context doesn't answer the underlying hate that Obama has for his fellow americans. He's the prototype liberal intellect - the old DEMOCRAT if you will. He can't even hide his condescension, though he makes a good effort. At least Hilary is looking down on you and doesn't pretend to not look down on you. Obama is a slickster but as Emerson said, who you are speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you're saying.

Sunday, April 13, 2008, 8:47 AM

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"underlying hate for his fellow americans"

For Fu@#! sake! I have an underlying hate for most politicians, but I do not see how you can label him as a hater for the things he has said so far. Might you have an underlying hate for certain ethnic backgrounds? Quite an assumption on my part huh? That's what you sound like taken out of context.

Sunday, April 13, 2008, 1:20 PM

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I think disdain is a better word. And it is not just Obama- most liberals like him think they are better and smarter than everyone else. It is not a color thing, it is a class thing.

Sunday, April 13, 2008, 2:11 PM

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Simmer down kids

Well, I think the liberals are less likely to believe the current administrations propaganda and fear fueling rhetoric...they may not be better, but they are definitely smarter! What class does the Right Wing , Religious Fanatic belong to anyway? Really, it's pretty sad that the extremes that we are offered make us choose lesser of evils. No one is really representing most of America. If the current admin is...pretty scary

Sunday, April 13, 2008, 2:29 PM

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Hillary is going to feast on Obama's carcass. And I love her for that. You need a president who is ruthless, not some pansy who can barely pick up a bowling bowl. The other upside to Hillary is that she won't forget stuff like McCain would.

Monday, April 14, 2008, 7:28 AM

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Afraid to see the truth...

I think Obama was right in saying what he did. No one wants to admit that American prosperity has indeed opened a gap between rich and poor and that those on the lower end of the spectrum are left feeling empty and angry. To admit to this gap would mean to admit to your own part in it and your unwillingness to do anything to change it because you are comfortable in your own life.

Obama makes white Americans uncomfortable because he sees through the anger of minorities and phrases it so that everyone can understand the problem. That breeds contempt. Obama makes blacks uncomfortable because he makes them face their own shortcomings as a people and feel guilty for having let the legacy and momentum of the Civil Rights Movement slip.

Hillary has nothing in common with the average American. Other than the fact that she is a woman, she cannot relate to most anything that the average American has faced. Of all the candidates, Obama is the only one who knows what it's like to be a minority, to work your way up from the bottom rung of the ladder, and how to maintain your dignity and poise while doing so. Don't hate him for showing you your own shortcomings. His call for change is necessary in order for this country to move forward.

I fear if we do not face these issues of race, rich/poor, and some other fundamental issues tugging at the seams of our society, we will lose the meaning of what it truly means to be American.

Monday, April 14, 2008, 8:28 AM

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8:28, amen to that. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am a white woman who would have voted for Hilary, but I saw the ugly side of her and Bill. You are right that she is not in contact with middle class america. Now I am changing my vote to Obama. I think he is aware of what low/middle class america needs and hopefully he can change the system.

Monday, April 14, 2008, 10:32 AM

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As an aside, I attended a conference where Obama's education advisor was the keynote speaker.

As I sat and listened to her deplorable statistics about the state of education in the U.S. (which, coincidentally 3 of the OTHER conference speakers (not affliated with Obama) chose as their topics)--I came to only 1 conclusion. The next president, no matter who he or she is, MUST MAKE EDUCATION A PRIORITY.

It is terrible to hear that the U.S. has dropped from among the top 5 most educated countries in the world to around 23 or 24 in the world when it comes to English and MATH. For all of our pompous self-promotion as a country, we are letting the rug slip out from under us when it comes to educating our young people. As many educators agree--"No Child Left Behind" is more like "No child's behind left"....

In my opinon, nothing we do as a nation will matter (whether it's in war, our economy, politics or anything else) if we do not do something about the dire situation of our K-12 education.

We won't be able to compete globally, much less locally, if we can't properly teach our children the basics and re-think how we've educated the people living and working in the U.S. These days, a bachelor's degree has in many ways become the High School diploma of the past-- and in states with really bad economy (and trust me, I live in one--the amount of closing factories and foreclosure is astounding), we are feeling the crunch.

There is a rush of people returning to school because they realize that if they don't get re-trained, they WON'T have a job. Even getting into the military requires a person to take a test, and if you can't cut it, they won't take you either....

So, after all that is said and done, I think that the most critical issue may not be all of the willy-nilly nit-picking of sound bites and grand standing... We as voters need to examine how our future president will be handling education--we can no longer sit on the sidelines watching with curious interest... It's got to be a priority or globally or we will no longer be able to compete.

Monday, April 14, 2008, 12:12 PM

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Regarding my post above, (12:12) this is not to say that I have decided on exactly who will get my vote. I am still waiting to see what happens, but in the meantime, I think it's valuable to look at how the different candidates view their policies in education.

Monday, April 14, 2008, 12:17 PM

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