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arc trainers vs. ellipticals?

does anyone know the difference between arc trainers and elliptical machines? (benefit of using one vs. the other, calories burned etc?) i've used ellipticals for years but only recently seen the arc trainers at my gym . .just curious.

Sun. Apr 2, 12:41am

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Arc Trainers RULE!

My old gym used to have them. I'm an avid spinner and cyclist and the arc trainer is the only cardio machine that I could get a good workout on. IT was just way too tough to get my HR up on the elliptical. Arc trainers are much more challenging and you will really notice the work in your thighs and butt. Plus, the calorie burn is much higher for the same duration. Go for it!

Sunday, April 02, 2006, 6:31 PM

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The idea behind the ArcTrainer is that the motion of your feet is in a slightly different path than on an elliptical, and this different movement is supposed to reduce torque stress on the knee and hip because the foot plate angle is different. The Cybex website has what is diescribed as an "independent research study" on this.
Whatever you think of it from the point of view of knee stress, it does seem to shift more load onto various muscles around the hip joint. I don't see that this is particularly good or bad - just different.
I'm not personally fond of it, but I don't claim to have any biomedical reason for my attitude. It just seems awkward to me.

Tuesday, April 04, 2006, 12:45 AM

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which one is the newer technology?

Monday, October 16, 2006, 10:23 AM

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ArcTrainer is newer.

Ellipticals hurt my knees, but I can go to town on ArcTrainers and feel great.

Monday, October 16, 2006, 11:38 AM

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they had arc trainers at my gym in college (sadly i now don't have access to that anymore) and i definitely agree that they get your HR up faster and keep it up there during your workout. however, i sometimes felt like i was leaning forward with the machine and would end up with a lower back ache, especially if i used the machine for more than 20 or 30 minutes. does anyone else find this?

Monday, October 16, 2006, 1:16 PM

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Yes, I seem to find the positioning on the Arctrainer awkward as you described. If not for that, I'd probably use it more (my gym has 2 flavors of Arctrainer and 3 of ellipticals so it can be random what I end up on if the place is busy, but usually there are choices).

Monday, October 16, 2006, 4:04 PM

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ARC TRAINER ONLY

You burn twice the calories with the Arc Trainer. It isn't akward after you get used to it. It tightens your legs comfortably. It's reshaped my body better than anything. That's the machine at my gym that everyone fears. Only me and my mother use it. I can go up to an hour or longer if I really want to. I suggest no other machine than the arc trainer. Every other machine is completely lousy and useless compared to the arc trainer. It positions your legs perfectly...your feet don't end up flying off the machine when you run and it is especially good running on the machine without holding the handles. It can be akward for awhile...i've been using it for 3 years or so. No more pain or any problems. It gives you great legs and ass..lol.. I suggest it to anyone who doesn't know what to use....forget the elliptical...forget the treadmill...forget the stairstepper... at least until you get used to it...then it's good to use different machines. It's better for your body anyhow. I burn around 300 in 30 minutes if I run fast enough...sometimes 400. Depending on how you set it up. I go up and down and put the resistance from 35 down to 15 or even lower to move faster. And also the incline...I tend to get great results when I move it around. Just remember...don't keep the resistance really high the whole time...that gives you thicker thighs. Unless that's what you want.

Sunday, November 19, 2006, 12:37 AM

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ARC TRAINER ONLY

You burn twice the calories with the Arc Trainer. It isn't akward after you get used to it. It tightens your legs comfortably. It's reshaped my body better than anything. That's the machine at my gym that everyone fears. Only me and my mother use it. I can go up to an hour or longer if I really want to. I suggest no other machine than the arc trainer. Every other machine is completely lousy and useless compared to the arc trainer. It positions your legs perfectly...your feet don't end up flying off the machine when you run and it is especially good running on the machine without holding the handles. It can be akward for awhile...i've been using it for 3 years or so. No more pain or any problems. It gives you great legs and ass..lol.. I suggest it to anyone who doesn't know what to use....forget the elliptical...forget the treadmill...forget the stairstepper... at least until you get used to it...then it's good to use different machines. It's better for your body anyhow. I burn around 300 in 30 minutes if I run fast enough...sometimes 400. Depending on how you set it up. I go up and down and put the resistance from 35 down to 15 or even lower to move faster. And also the incline...I tend to get great results when I move it around. Just remember...don't keep the resistance really high the whole time...that gives you thicker thighs. Unless that's what you want.

Sunday, November 19, 2006, 12:37 AM

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arc trainer /hips and thighs

I've recently switched from a Precor elliptical to the arc trainer at the gym. I feel like I have to work harder to keep my balance (improving core strength?) and I also find that the extra challenge keeps the workout more interesting. It also seems (from 5 days a week, 30 mins a day for the last three weeks) that the arc trainer is developing muscle all over my leg, instead of primarily my quads.

Additionally, I had started getting joint pain and stiffness in my right hip while using the elliptical--this was especially noticeable later in the day and the day after a workout. It went away when I did more work on the sleigh / lower body press machine _and_ used the arc instead of the elliptical. After reading some stuff online that suggested that the elliptical might be putting greater torque on my hips, I wonder if that's the problem.

I love the arc trainer, which is a word I _never_ thought I would use to describe an aerobic exercise machine!

Monday, February 12, 2007, 10:45 PM

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You do not run on an elliptical, you do not run on an arc trainer. The movement is NOT the same. Even running on a treadmill is slightly different than running on a stationary surface- but that is at least running.

Monday, February 12, 2007, 11:10 PM

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