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will plastic surgery make you happy??

take a listen to this call that Joshua and I made and please let us know your thoughts:


Wed. Apr 28, 3:46pm

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great call, thanks for sharing this.

Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 5:18 PM

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I think this is a really important subject to talk about. It relates to body image and addictive behavior. I have a niece that has had extensive volunteer plastic surgery. She used to be over 300 pounds and went from food addiction to cosmetic surgery addiction. I like the format too. Thank you.

Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:32 PM

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this is an email we were sent in response:

"I saw a TV show this afternoon, called 'The Doctors'. It's a show that a
panel of real Dr's discuss different health issues. Anyway, I came in from
doing yard work for a break and turned it on. They were interviewing a
Mother who INJECTS her own 16 year old daughter w/ Botox!

Personally, I am not against plastic surgery, but do not plan to ever have
it done. I';ll keep every wrinkle I have earned as my badge of honor and
will continue to weight train and do aerobic activity and eat healthy for as
long as God allows me to.

BUT...I am not happy seeing young women/little girls also, getting plastic
surgery. I think it is nuts. I could see it for only a reason that is
medically needed for say, speech-hearing-sight or movement. Otherwise, no.

I don't know how this other women was even getting Botox to inject her
daughter, they tried to ask her but she swayed away from answering. They
also asked her if she was aware it can be lethal if wrong dose is given and
did she know that limit on dosage, but she again, avoided answering.

So sad to me to see young gals trying to look like cover models. If they
only knew the truth about how those gals look that way....I wonder if they
would still see them as idols? Hummmm?"

Thursday, April 29, 2010, 8:24 AM

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Plastic surgery would make me VERY happy, but only for a short period of time. I would find something else to hate about myself. that's just my personality.

Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:34 AM

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will plastic surgery make you happy??

Listening to the description of so many voluntary surgeries makes me ask myself why anyone would go through so much pain (and disruption from normal routines) on a continuing basis. Plastic surgery alters only a person's outward appearance, not their personality assets or deficits or their judgment. Jackie and Joshua suggested that the surgery and subsequent improvement in some physical aspect of the person are an attempt to fill a spiritual void. It sounds as though this person keeps seeking attention to address deep psychological needs. I hope she gets the needed counseling soon.

Thanks for sharing this very sad case with us. Format is fine; works on my computer okay.

Thursday, April 29, 2010, 10:11 AM

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This was really interesting to listen to.

I would never want an extreme surgery, like a chin scrape or a back sculpting, but I do want to have my spider veins worked on when I lose all my weight as a reward to myself. Spider veins run in both sides of my family, and I have quite a few already even though I'm only in my early 30s. I don't want to work really hard to make my legs look shapely, only to still be self conscious in a bathing suit or shorts because of these ugly veins.

I'm hoping I can just get these done, and I will be satisfied. I doubt I'll be one of those people who will then want to go on to fix every little imperfection...but you never know...

Thursday, April 29, 2010, 10:29 AM

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if you are genuinely unhappy, i seriously doubt that plastic surgery will make you happy. that being said, i had a nose job 2 years ago and am much happier with my appearance. not happier in life (i mean i am, but not as a result of the rhinoplasty), just happier with the way my face looks. my nose was much too large for my face, i had it scaled down a little (nothing drastic), and now it fits so much better with the rest of my face.


Thursday, April 29, 2010, 3:23 PM

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I liked the point of the discussion that addressed the reality that we all have subtle and/or not so subtle ways of trying to fill spiritual voids in our lives with things that will never fill them.

Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:57 PM

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My own experience is that I feel much better if I look good than if I look bad. I also feel much younger if I look younger than if I look older. I also like good haircuts. I don't like wrinkled skin or wrinkled clothes in the same way that I don't like living in a messy house. A little Botox does wonders and only costs a couple hundred dollars a year.

I had abdominal liposuction a couple years ago. I'm so happy I had that fat pad removed! It stuck out farther than my boobs! I used to catch myself resting my forearm on my stomach as if it were a ledge! And clothes looked sloppy on my body. I am not given to doing radical things like that, and It was more major a process than I expected, but I am very pleased with the result and very happy I had it done. I keep my weight within a normal range with diet and exercise, but no amount of diet and exercise was going to get rid of that abdominal fat pad.

An interesting aspect of this is that I have two good friends who are pear shaped with big hips and butts. Both of them hate their hips and butts yet know about liposuction and have the monely for the proceedure but apparently will never do anything about what they don't like. Instead, what I detect in them is supressed hostility that I did something and resolved my problem while they still have their problem and probably always will.

There are good cosmetic proceedures that are available. Just look at Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Bill and Hillary Clinton! They're looking younger every day!

Thursday, April 29, 2010, 11:12 PM

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will plastic surgery make you happy??

Is too much of something ever really good (or good enough.)

Here's the thing with plastic surgery, one nose job leads to another (especially after having so many, it falls off.) If a person is constantly doing one kind of routine to "help" them-self and it never gives them the results they truly desire, it's about time they try something else. It helps to know the real problem before getting started so, dig down deep and take a look at the heart; why does the problem exist, when did it start, etc.
Doing healthy things brings happy and long lasting results. Making-over one's self with plastic surgery in a day brings fast results but the person will still be left with inner-scars that will take years to heal and make beautiful. As stated in the recording, everyone is looking for something that satisfies them and for most, it's something spiritual. One good book is the Bible: it teaches people not to judge others but to value each other, and work on their own lives.

Friday, April 30, 2010, 8:44 PM

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About nine years ago, I remember clearly being in my car, getting ready to go to the burger place down the road from my work, to get some french fries. And I remember clearly thinking that those french fries were going to make me feel better. It was a big a-ha moment. I was trying to fix something with food that cannot be fixed with food, and I was not changing my ways when it wasn't working.

The "first step and first shift" that Jackie is talking about, for me it was running and therapy, for the poster above its the Bible. PeerTrainer helps, too. I'm not in a group, but I like reading other people's logs and seeing that I'm not the only one struggling. I feel less alone.

I am like a smoker who need to not just stop smoking, but to change the habits that go along with it. Food, especially salty, sugary food, stimulates the pleasure centers in the brain like a drug. I'm trying to over come that to meet my goals, and so are you, and you know what? Wow, how hard core of us to do this. Go us.

Saturday, May 01, 2010, 8:15 AM

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Not meaning to threadjack, but you all mean "cosmetic surgery," which is a particular subset of "plastic surgery."

I've had plastic surgery to restore my face after an accident. Let me tell you, it makes me VERY happy and thankful every time I look in the mirror.

I believe that there is a difference between being dissatisfied with one's nose and being mangled and disfigured. BUT I'm also willing to concede that for someone else, maybe it's not so big a difference. If someone else felt about their nose the way I did about my face after my accident, maybe cosmetic surgery isn't such a bad thing.

Saturday, May 01, 2010, 9:09 AM

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I think that relating the young woman's excessive cosmetic surgery to alcoholism and other addictions is very appropriate. Our culture worships looking good and being cool, and the TV and print ads glamorize drinking and doing anything necessary to look like a model. Losing weight--and for many young women potentially developing eating disorders--and being cool get considerably more press than being healthy, so it's no wonder that people who are swayed by our media-fed opinions go overboard.

The converse is that anyone not "perfect" feels like a failure and, hey, when you're feeling that way, what's another bowl of Haagen Daaz or bag of Oreos.

As you said in your call, at the core is a spiritual hunger that is pretty much ignored by the mainstream media. What's most important should be developing strong, healthy relationships, physical and mental health, and self-fullfilment, but the path to get there is not a profitable venture, so you won't find it the focus of most TVs shows or magazine articles. If one seeks support, it is there, but Fortune 500 companies are not made from it.

Thank you for pursuing this extremely important thread. Learning how to not make destructive decisions is a life-long pursuit.

Monday, May 03, 2010, 8:11 PM

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I had a tummy tuck after my third child. Best $8000 I've ever spent.

Monday, August 09, 2010, 12:04 AM

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It really is true that hapiness comes from within but I have seen whole personalities change after a smaller nose. Sometimes you change things on the outside and it really does help.

Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 7:56 AM

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Cosmetic Surgery

Very interesting article, having researched this topic myself I understand that there are a lot of pros and cons when it comes to plastic surgery. At the end of the day it is personal preference, some people like it some people hate it, its like marmite. As long as the surgery isn't too obvious I am all in favor for it!


Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 11:23 AM

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