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Hi, I'm new here, and have 50+ pounds to drop. I am following the peertrainer cheat 10 plan of eating. Do you follow the Cheat 10, or are you following something else. Let me know how it's going, too.

Fri. Jan 4, 12:34pm

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I was just about to post a new thread and then saw that my question was similar to the original poster so I thought I'd add on since they over lap.

Does your attempt at healthy eating ever feel like you are trying to stop leaks in a dam? You fill in one spot and water starts squirting out somewhere else? In the case of dieting, I'll stop snacks in one area (say lunch time McD's) and then I'll crave somewhere else (currently at night). Suzanne (on one team I'm on) seems to be about the only one to have overcome this (sounds like shes been on top of things for well over a year w/ ETL). I can't bring myself to stop eating meat but she is certainly on top of the healthy eating game.

I have improved by about 50% since I joined PT. I no longer drink my daily 2 or 3 Dr Peppers, I have salad almost every day, no longer eat potato chips, and have added a lot more fruits and vegys to diet. That and exercise have allowed me to drop my wt to my goal of staying below 165, but I'm treading water (if I cut back on exercise, my wt would start to climb). I want to finish the job of being a healthy eater. I believe I'm on top of my game w/ exercise, but I have room to improve on diet before I can say "I'm doing everything that can be done to improve my health".

My definition of healthy eating would basically mean I ate crap only about once a week and in small portions. I define crap as candy, cookies, cakes, soda, etc. Fast food might be allowed once per month. Processed foods would be limited to small amounts at dinner w/ large amounts of salad and vegys (I don't make the meals so I don't have input into what is made).

So in addition to just babbling on, I'd like suggestions/experiences.
1. Whats the longest you've eaten healthy (unbroken string of days).
2. If you use the cheat system, is it really working for you? If you can't stick to it, I'm not sure you can say its working (or maybe you don't agree w/ that, I'm open to that as well).
3. What allows suzanne to stick to ETL while most of the rest of us flounder between doing OK and doing bad on our eating lifestyles.
4. How many flawless days in a row are possible (love that phrase bendade).
5. What would you suggest I do if you were my personal trainer.

I would really appreciate a lot of feedback on this one. Its been frustrating me a lot lately (and I'm sure a lot of other people).

Friday, January 04, 2013, 1:28 PM

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I think what allows your teammate to be successful on ETL is that there aren't daily and weekly allowances of crap, no matter how small. Does this mean you have to banish crap FOREVER?! No, but I think you would be well served by banishing it until you no long crave the stuff. By then, when you go back to it you may find you don't even like it. And, really, if you never ate fast food again you'd be doing yourself a HUGE favor!

I do PTs cleanse (which includes meat) and the Cheat System and can do it successfully for weeks at a time. Striving for flawless eating all the time only sets me up for total failure and total rebellion, but I can keep it clean 95% of the time no problem and to me that is a success. But what is possible? 365 is possible if that's what you want!

If I were you personal trainer I'd ask why you don't have input to your meals or why can't you make your own meals?!

Friday, January 04, 2013, 1:47 PM

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thanks 1:47,
I haven't read the cheat system but I am signing up tonight to read it. As for why I don't have input into my meals (actually only dinner), its all about scheduling. I work full time, wife works part time (outside the house that is), so she makes supper. Shes fine w/ making macaroni and stuff (always meat and vegys too). I'm not going to tell her she should make changes until I have the ability (schedule) to participate. They aren't that unhealthy, just the mac n cheese and stuff like that she also makes w/ it.

bitog, I've never actually read the cheat system, but I obviously need to and will sign up tonight. The 8 day brutal challenge (thats a challenge my team is taking) requires flawless eating so I will be starting that tomorrow. It always tightens up my eating habits. I might be challenging you to how many days we can go flawless at the end of the challenge. I too have gotten a craving for some of the healthier things I started eating. I hate missing my salad or protein shake anymore. I'm kind of torn between the all or nothing and the quit a little at a time thinking. If I look at eating crap as an addiction, I would say all or nothing. Smoking isn't something you just do once in a while (maybe 1 in 100,000 can do that, but thats not acceptable odds for me). Smoking is a chemical and neural addiction that requires total elimination. Even then, a smoker is prone to an occassional urge for the rest of their life. The urges just get weaker and less frequent. (See for a very scientific discussion of the properties of smoking addiction). Due to suzannes experience, I tend to think the same could be applied to candy, greasy food, and sugary drinks.

suzanne, thanks. You are my inspiration for not believing it is impossible to totally eliminate crap (each person has a different definition of crap). Eating is so much a product of upbringing. If I fed my kids Thai food, I'm sure they would hate it. But I'm sure little kids in Thailand are perfectly happy and hate our food. Hundreds of years ago, people did not eat crap foods. They survived. So I really think that the desire for crap is a product of society and can be fully eliminated. It may not be unrealistic to quit completely, we fail only because we don't believe deep inside that we can.

teri, I thought only women had hormones! lol. You mentioned sleep problems and unintentional wt loss. I don't have those. But I agree I need to eat better which is what got me started thinking about this. I can't expect my body to constantly perform high levels of exercise w/o the proper fuel.

Friday, January 04, 2013, 5:22 PM

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I'd still love to hear more. And original poster I'm sure would like to hear more about various diets.

My repsonse to original poster:
Every diet that works basically does one thing: it reduces calories. How the calories are reduced is the important thing. You must choose a diet that reduces calories and is healthy. Thats why I'm against Atkins diet. Heres how I would approach it which worked for me:
1. Losing wt is 80% dependent on what you eat, staying motivated is 80% based on exercise, being is 100% dependent on doing both (no study to site here, just based on observation of how long people stay with this site and which people lose wt).
2. Beginners should start out w/ 1 or 2 simple diet changes that they truly believe the can keep. Eliminating all crap foods at once is really unrealtstic. I chose quitting my beloved daily Dr Pepper as a start.
3. After getting a couple wins in, change something else. I couple sure fire things that will help and are very doable are eating 1 salad a day and adding a protein shake to breakfast.
4. Eat protein w/ every meal. Protein is filling and keeps the belly full.
5. Keep adding new good foods and eliminating junk foods over time
6. Exercise. I don't care what type but you need to exericse.

I'm sure others will have other/differing opinions. Find a highly active team and best of luck.

Friday, January 04, 2013, 6:03 PM

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Great comments everyone. I'm the original poster, and was curious as to what everyone else was doing (Weight Watchers, Peer trainer Cheat 10, a crazy fad diet out there). I always try to keep it healthy, organic, and good for you, butI need something sweet, salty, ot gooey just to keep me going. I'm a firm believer that one cannot lose weight if he/she is unhappy with what he/she has to eat, and that whatever we choose, it has to be something that we can follow for a lifetime, so you need something with wiggle room to account for life's celebrations.

I personally need something with a little give room, so that I don't put myself into a downward spiral if I've eaten a low fat, high fiber chocolate muffin/cupcake, or a few cookies. There's nothing worse that feeling defeated, when you're trying to lose.

Saturday, January 05, 2013, 11:38 AM

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