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Advice - skincare

I need some advice and opinions, as I don't just want to be "sold."

I got a gift certificate to a very luxury makeup store/salon, to be used to purchase makeup for my upcoming wedding. I cannot simply get my makeup done there, b/c the wedding is in another state, and I'd rather do it myself anyway. Here's the dilemma:

I went in yesterday, and the woman just about yelled at me as she was asking me about my skincare routine - I use Neutrogena Acne Wash to wash my face in the shower, and I use a foundation with SPF most days. I'm 23. She says that I need a cleaner, a moisturizer, and a toner to use every morning, as well as some sort of moisturizing mask to do once a week. In addition, she says I should be using an eye cream every night, and a lip exfoliator once a week, followed by a tissue repair cream. She sent me home with TONS of samples, and said to come back in a week and she'll help me to find the right makeup, free of cost (normally the consultation costs $75! I was not going to pay that!)

Anyway, what do I really need? I'm 23, and have nice skin - not too oily or dry, an occasional pimple, but no real problems. The lady at the store said that if I do this preventative regimen that she told me, my skin will stay nice as I age. I'm all for prevention, but really, what's necessary?

Tue. Aug 8, 2:21pm

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i have found that using a toner and moisturizer really maintains my facial skin well. i started using these two kinds of products in the mid-nineties (i'm 37 now) and my skin has retained its youthfulness. i use cruelty-free products w/o any alcohol-i don't know if that is a big factor. i also not used soap of any type on my face for many, many years-just wash in my daily shower with warm water. i also do not ever use foundation or any kind of "cover-up". i re-apply my facial moisturizer about 3 times a day. i get great comments all the time about my skin. i do, however wish that i included sun screen sooner in ny routine, as now i have some visible sun damage. but now, many products contain some sort of sun screen in the moisturizer. and i use a lip balm all the time.

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 2:32 PM

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same poster...
i use a facial clay-based mask about once or twice a month.

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 2:36 PM

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I have acne prone skin and I don't use a toner. I use oxy pads after I scrub my face and moisturize and thats it. Toner is alright but not required as I've heard.

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 2:45 PM

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I'm 36 with normal-to-dry skin but an overall great complexion (fair Irish). I've successfully avoided getting a sunburn more than once every 3 years, and my normal 'routine' is just a creamy soap like Dove and then a not-so-fancy moisturizer like Oil of Olay or, at the moment, Roc.

I did, however, really really like the Mary Kay 3-in-1 (cleanser, mild scrub and one other function I can't remember) - I just keep forgetting to get some. I also use a random Body Shop mask once or twice a month if I feel like my skin is a little lifeless.

I can't use lipstick or most lip products because they seem to bring on a cold sore (yuck).

I bought some eye stuff from Avon but I keep forgetting to use it.

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 3:19 PM

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At 23, you don't need all those products. Keep your skin clean and use sunscreen. An eye cream probably wouldn't hurt, as long as it's not really heavy. Sounds like your salesperson is on commission. I also wouldn't make major changes in my skincare routine right before the wedding - it could lead to major breakouts (particularly if any of the products have fragrances you're not used to, or are oil-based).

You could tell the salesperson you're not comfortable changing your skincare routine right now, but would love to try something new after the wedding, but right now you're just interested in makeup for the wedding.

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 3:35 PM

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I am 35. I haven't used bar soap on my face since I was a child. My skin is more on the oily side, but can get dry when I tan in the sun or tanning bed or if I over apply acne products to get rid of a zit. I use a gentle cleanser and moisturize a few days a week. I usually apply it in the shower. I also regularly use a strawberry facial mask. I think I have very nice skin for my age and people always think I am younger than I am. In fact, I was recently carded in a bar! Also, I noticed that since I started using a foundation from one of those luxury makeup counters, my skin looks amazingly better -- with or without the foundation. I think the moisturizers and SPF in the foundation have been very beneficial for my skin. I have been using Estee Lauder for about 8-10 years now.

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 3:45 PM

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Yeah, that saleswoman is full of sh!t, really.

Cleanse and moisturize (with at least 15 SPF) and you're good to go. #1 is to take care of your skin now (sunscreen) to prevent wrinkles for when you're older. Most dermatologists will tell you that Neutrogena products are just as good as La Mer anyway.

And this advice from above:
"You could tell the salesperson you're not comfortable changing your skincare routine right now, but would love to try something new after the wedding, but right now you're just interested in makeup for the wedding"
IS FANTASTIC! Great way to handle it.

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 3:50 PM

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OP here

Thanks so much for everyone's advice!

I've been using the samples for a day now, and my skin does feel somewhat softer, but maybe greasier...?? I'll give it the full week and see if it feels/looks different to me. Really, I just want the makeup, I think. Please keep the advice coming. I go back next Monday; I'll keep you updated!

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 3:53 PM

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cleanser vs. facial wash

Can someone tell me, what is the difference between a "cleanser" and a "facial wash"??? am i meant to use them both at the same time, or pick between the two?

Also, has anyone tried a product (washes, cleansers, moisturizers) that claims it "gradually brightens and evens skin tone"??? Does this mean they can reduce light sunspots/freckles?

As for my skincare regimen: Currently, i use a facial wash in the mornings and evenings ("clarifying facial wash" from Earth Science, or a drugstore brand Aloe facial wash). I moisturize only in the mornings, every day, using tinted SPF 30 moisturizer by Neutrogena. If i'm going out to something special, i'll add Clinique foundation (Superfit) to even out skin tone in particular areas (bridge of nose, under eyes and under brows) and/or some loose translucent powder if it's especially hot or humid, to keep my skin dry (Cover Girl). About once a week, I use a Neutrogena exfoliating wash (chemical exfoliation).

I used to use a toner in my early 20s (I'm 27 now), but never found it made a difference. I expect it's more useful if you have oily skin or visible pores. For the past few years, I only use a toner after plucking my eyebrows, to keep away bacteria (same as using astringent).

I do wish I would moisturize in the evenings too, but have never been able to get into the habit. When I do remember, I use Clinique's Dramatically Different Moisturizer, since I don't need an SPF moisturizer at night and this one is totally non-greasy makes skin feel softer in the morning.

As far as lips go, I use lip balms from the body shop, or lipstick from clinique, on a day to day basis, but they don't have SPF, so I should probably find a lip balm that does...

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 4:21 PM

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talk to a dermatologist about what type of skin care regimen you need-not to a salesperson! no matter how nice or knowledgeable she seems-ultimately she's there to sell something . . .and that is why "more" is better coming from her. In fact, I would not only ask a dermatologist what you need for your skin, but i would ask (especially if it's a woman derm.) her what products she uses/recommends personally.

then go get a makeup consultation by the woman at the spa, and be firm about what you "need" . . .the makeup part is the fun part, only buy from her what you are actually psyched about! keep in mind, not all makeup is created equal . . .but some are!!! kohl liner pencils-most pencil eye liners are made of the same ingredients and will have the same effect . . it's the application that is important. you don't need to spend a lot on pencil eye liner to look great! but for foundation as well as eye shadows i definitely recommend spending a little more. it's totally worth it!

good luck-and congrats on the wedding!

Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 11:06 PM

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