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OT: would you ever vote for Rudy Giuliani as president?

I live in NY and wonder how people in other parts of the country perceive him.

Thu. Aug 17, 2:19pm

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Thursday, August 17, 2006, 2:48 PM

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I think he'd be great. He is pretty liberal, but tough where it really matters.

Thursday, August 17, 2006, 3:06 PM

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I think he has a good reputation because he took charge in a horrible situation but besides that one event he was a non effective, unsuccessful leader.

Thursday, August 17, 2006, 3:08 PM

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i go into the city a lot, and guiliani definitely had an impact on the amount of trash on the streets, the people drinking in public, and most noticably the amount of pot smoking in washington square and central park. i'd have to read more about him to decide if i'd vote for him for president, though.

Thursday, August 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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the 3:08 poster did not live in NYC-- unless one likes crime, his tenure here was highly sucessful in cleaning up the place. Of course people did bitch and moan-- he was called "hitler" before being called hitler was cool. His impact was enormous.

His downside is that he really has a rough edge, he is stylisticaly not that pleasant, compared to the uber smooth Bill Clinton. But he can speak in complete sentences and can coherently make an arguement, unlike the current occupant of the WH.

Thursday, August 17, 2006, 4:24 PM

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I think it'll be Giuliani vs. Hilary. And here's how I see it:

I love what Giuliani has done for New York. He made it a very fun place to visit, as so many areas are safe to walk around in whereas a decade or more ago, they were not safe - i.e. the theater district, Times Square, etc. I wish he'd come to Chicago and take away some of the "trash" outside my building too! But that's a different story...

He very successfully cleaned up a city. A big city, but still just a city. He doesn't have any experience in politics in the state realm; i'd be very hesitant to vote for him to run the country, especially as he'd be thrown from the city realm straight to the global realm of politics! I'd vote for him in a second for the House or Senate, and after a term or two, probably I'd vote for him for President. But now, he just doesn't have the experience.

Hillary I'd vote for, definitely. People say they don't like her politics, or they think she's a b****, etc. But, people love to hate a successful woman. And, she did a really great job when she was there for her last term (whether it was her or Bill, it'd likely be the same if she were elected, I think).

Unfortunately, if it's the two of them, I think Giuliani will win hands-down, b/c people aren't ready to elect a female. Maybe I'm wrong, but, I think we'll be seeing very shortly whether he can make the jump from New York City to the world!

Thursday, August 17, 2006, 4:33 PM

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I couldn't agree more with the last poster. I am ready to vote for a woman president but I think most of the country is behind the times in this. Too bad.

Thursday, August 17, 2006, 4:51 PM

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4:33pm poster here -

Yay! It makes me feel so warm and fuzzy when someone agrees with me on here, instead of biting my head off or something!


Thursday, August 17, 2006, 5:34 PM

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I have a tough time admiring Hilary simply because she stayed with a man who publicly cheated on her over and over again - presumably because it has given her the kind of public profile to become a presidential candidate herself. If she ends up on the ballot, I'd probably try to compare what she has done to get there compared to what other presidents have done.

Giuliani? I moved out of NYC in 1992 because the place was a filthy, dangerous pit. I moved back in 2000 because Giuliani made it not just habitable but enjoyable to live here. You can say it's "just a city", but at this moment in world history, it's the capital of the world...that makes it a very big deal. I would also say that 9/11 was a world event and that he handled it with unrehearsed dignity underscored with raw pain (he lost a lot of people who were very close to him for decades).

Okay, seriousness aside, wouldn't it be fun to write in Jesse "The Body" Ventura? We put some really far-out candidates in public office, for better or worse.

Thursday, August 17, 2006, 5:53 PM

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if all of us who felt it was time for a women in the presidential office (or even vp) voted as such, it could have an impact that washington would feel. keep that in mind, people!!

Thursday, August 17, 2006, 10:11 PM

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