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Most insane amount of points in a small amount of food?
Starbucks Oat Nut Grain Muffin. 12 points.
Mon. Sep 11, 10:03am
Whatever. I'm not a fan of this line of thinking. You can offer a 500 calorie muffin. One does NOT have to eat the whole thing. Imagine breaking it in half. Wow, what a concept. 250 calorie snack.
Monday, September 11, 2006, 10:40 AM
I think Starbucks pastries are delicious. I can make decisions for myself. This whole nagging, nanny scolding is tiresome.
Monday, September 11, 2006, 10:45 AM
That writeup cracked me up! Still, if we're grading on sheer efficiency, I think a double cheeseburger at Burger King could fill the ENTIRE day's calorie quota.
Monday, September 11, 2006, 12:55 PM
Right on, 10:40 poster!
I agree wholeheartedly! Enough of this "wah wah wah - someone else is resposible for my fat!" kind of thinking! No one's forcing this stuff down their throats!
original poster, I'm not saying that YOU were saying this, by the way. I don't know much about weight watchers, but even I know that 12 points is a lot for something that small!
Monday, September 11, 2006, 4:50 PM
Hey what about fries and hamburgers? Cake, brownies, candy of any kind? Pretty much any pastries are going to be full of calories.
Monday, September 11, 2006, 5:11 PM
Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) puts out a newsletter called Nutrition Action Healthletter with a "Food Porn" feature, which spotlights the unhealthiest offenders out there. It includes such frightening things as:
Hardee's Monster Thickburger - two burgers, 4 strips of bacon, 3 slices of cheese, 1200 calories.
Starbuck's Chocolate Peanut Butter Stack (small 5oz bar) - at 670 calories and 20g saturated fat, it's officially worse than a Big Mac.
Monday, September 11, 2006, 10:16 PM
Caramel Pecanbon clocks in 1100 calories and 56g fat. Geez, the regular Cinnabon without the caramel and pecans is "only" 730 calories.
P.S. Regarding the Starbucks muffin that started this thread...the scariest thing about that is you would think it was one of your better choices with words like "oat" "nut" and "grain" right there in the name. On the surface, it sounds like a sensible, high fiber, nuts-have-healthy-fat option.
Monday, September 11, 2006, 10:23 PM
Well I have to say I was pretty surprised when I looked up Schlotzsky's on Weight Watchers. I had assumed sandwhich place not THAT bad... Their deluxe original sandwhich. 19 points for a SMALL, if you go with the large 46!. I'm not really doing Weight Watchers but I think I'd only have 22 points or something like that for the DAY, 19 points in one sandwhich is scary.
Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 8:21 AM
i love how americans as a group want freedom of choice in all areas of their lives, including the freedom to sue those who offer some of the bad-for-your-health options available. we all need to take responsiblity for the choices we freely make, with all of the consequences and repercussions.
Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 12:12 PM
I think the point of the original comment was not that Starbuck's should be sued, but that, while there are some things we all know can't be good for us -- cheeseburgers, cinnabon, etc. -- there are other things like oat nut grain muffins or plain-seeming sandwiches which have zillions more calories than they would if we made them at home. And most places that sell such things don't have the nutritional info. out where one can easily see it.
Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 1:07 PM
to the last poster-you can't compare tobacco companies vs. the food industry. yes, these fast food companies and prepackaged food companies are marketing a certain way to get our attention, but the difference is that ALL tobacco is bad for you-in any amount. food is NOT the same thing. we HAVE to eat-it is OUR job to educate ourselves and make healthy choices. these companies are out to make a profit, not babysit us.
Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:50 PM
cigarettes, food, whatever!
I am an ex-smoker and I will never smoke again. I haven't had a cigarette in almost two years. I now hate the smell and fully understand and agree that smoking is very bad for you.
However... I still would never blame my bad habit of smoking on the tobacco company! Man, people! Take some responsibility for your own well-being, will you??
Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 9:54 PM
"fast food nation", "food politics"-whatever-i'm not denying that these companies are well funded and trying to mislead us. yes, their advertising tactics are pretty smooth. it's just like people who blame their parents for everything that has gone wrong in their lives. there's a certain point in adulthood where you need to take responsibility for your choices-what you put into your body and otherwise regardless of other wrong doing. you have the last say. blaming other sources only goes so far!
i shop only the outer edges of grocery stores and avoid the packaged food "crap" that they sell out there-and i don't watch a lot of TV. you are not a slave or a victim of advertising. you are a slave of your own will! make choices and suffer or celebrate because of it. we have choices-often too many. if you have access to this website, then you have internet access and there is no excuse for being uneducated and eating shitty food.
if i eat a pint of ice cream-it's because i've got something going on and want to eat it-not because ben & jerry's told me to. or starbucks or whatever! my choice. your choice.
Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 10:07 PM
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