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I think there has been a real erosion of the gains made by women in the 70's and the 80's. Fashions for young women are bizarely provocative, young women seem more likely to pursue motherhood than career in their twenties, women leaders in business and politics are perceived as evil ...

Sat. Sep 30, 1:04pm

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yes, there seems to be a revived cult of motherhood

Saturday, September 30, 2006, 1:06 PM

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Nobody makes young women wear those provocative outfits, they are just like a bunch of sheep and follow the fashion. I think it is sad.......

Saturday, September 30, 2006, 1:18 PM

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What gains? I feel like I was forced out to wark to make ends meet! You are rightit is much worse for women today! We were better off in the 60's. When woman went to work they truly choose it they weren't forced out to to economics. It was acceptable to be a homemaker. By the way! I am an educated careere woman.

Saturday, September 30, 2006, 1:40 PM

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I'm not one of those fly-off-the-handle types (at least I try not to be), so I'd like some clarification before I start what might end up being World War III.
1:04pm - Is pursuing motherhood a bad thing? Why does she have to pursue a career first? She'll either have to abandon it later or sacrifice time with her children to continue it.
1:06pm - a cult? I hope you're joking.
1:40pm - Is it NOT acceptable to be a hommaker now?

Saturday, September 30, 2006, 2:02 PM

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If women are CHOOSING motherhood in their twenties, that is not a step backwards, since it is due to CHOICE and not societal expectations (and it is hardly a "cult"-these kids are our future and we damn well better make sure they get the best chance possible to be good human beings instead of a bunch of selfish entitlement-minded kids who reaped the benefits of their working moms' guilt with a truckload of material possessions; and I certainly don't think this is true of all working moms, but certainly it can be said many of todays kids get a hell of alot for doing very little) , Choice is what the sixties was all about. I CHOSE to be a stay at home mom in my 30's because I only have one chance with my kids, I don't want daycare or non-family member raising them, and I recognize women now have the freedom to start or restart their careers in their 40's, 50's or beyond. This choice means I shop garage sales and thrift shops, clip coupons and eat out infrequently. No big screen tv here- we live much like I did growing up in the sixties-one vehicle, older home, and distinguising between wants and needs.

I agree with the sexual and clothing issues; women are objectified even more these days, and much of it is their own doing. They have given their choices over to the media and ad images, and still feel much of their self-worth lies in how appealing men
(most who have no interest in a relationship beyond sex so why bother?) find them physically. How many women here on PT do this (diet/exercise) to increase their appeal to the opposite sex as opposed to trying to be strong healthy women
who will retain good habits as they age?

As far as women leaders being perceived as evil, unfortunely much of that is media too.
There are many highly respected female politicians and CEO's (Meg Whitman of ebay has never been demonized like Carly Fiorina, Maria Shriver never receives the critisism Hillary does and she is just as active as Hillary was during Clinton years) , we just don't hear enough about them. It is extreme groups hiding behind thier religion and cowards that use sex against high powered women since they don't have much else as ammunition.

Women be strong and true to yourselves-that is the real message of being liberated.

Saturday, September 30, 2006, 2:27 PM

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