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Ok, I know the lose vs. loose has been said, but PLEASE, advice is a noun, what you want or what you are giving here on PT....advise is a verb, the act of giving or receiving advice


Thu. Oct 5, 5:45pm

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oh, christ! why not label this thread "another grammar lesson from the anally retentive"?

Friday, October 06, 2006, 10:37 AM

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Not the op. Using proper grammar is not "anally retentive". It's actually polite.

Friday, October 06, 2006, 11:09 AM

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Not the OP either...

Some PTers just can't resist being nasty, particularly on the anonymous threads. Those of us who spell correctly are not anal-retentive... We just don't like seeing the English language being massacred.

Friday, October 06, 2006, 11:43 AM

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Politeness and grammar? Weird connection. The only connection I really see is when someone is unable to look past simple errors made by people who are either non-linguistically-oriented or are possibly just in a hurry.

When I taught high school I loved the first day, the day I explained to the kids that I wasn't about to teach them "proper" English (which only exists in the minds of elitists). *Standard* English, yes...but it wasn't any more "proper" than the English they spoke with their friends. Both depend on the situation in which one finds oneself. For example, right now there are PT readers who are thinking (quite correctly) that I'm a little bit linguistically stiff for a casual forum. "Oneself?" Come on.

In my classes, I put it this way: Imagine the one person you daydream about, the best-looking person you know, the Perfect One!, has invited you to a formal dinner at a country club--but all you have to wear is a swimsuit.

Now imagine the same person has invited you to a beach party with barbecue and volleyball, but all you have to wear is your formal attire.

Both are equally ridiculous. There are places where standard (not proper, but standard) English is appropriate, even necessary; and there are places where it is as out of place as a chiffon gown on the beach.

Advice/advise--This is a simple spelling or usage error, not that important, pretty easy to figure out, and certainly not worth making a big fuss over in a place that's supposed to be about casual, relaxed, noncritical conversation.

Friday, October 06, 2006, 11:52 AM

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Above poster - thank you for explaining so simply why "proper grammar" isn't such a big deal to us when posting on PT.

I save that for business proposals and letters to clients.

Friday, October 06, 2006, 11:59 AM

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Again, not op, but no fuss is being made. Advice/advise is NOT a simple error. I bet many do not know the difference and the OP was doing them a favor.

Friday, October 06, 2006, 11:59 AM

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sure spelling mistakes aren't that big of a deal-but i find it annoys me too when someone spells something wrong that easily could have been sounded out phonetically. advise-advice fall into these categories. if you are going to take the time to respond-take the time to "sound" out your message. you can tell when someone is in a hurry posting vs. just doesn't know how to spell-if they are in a hurry they may leave off a letter like "you" when they mean "your" or rearrange "hte" when they mean "the".

Friday, October 06, 2006, 12:03 PM

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how does my grammar help/hinder my weight-loss efforts?


Friday, October 06, 2006, 12:05 PM

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Okay, I'm not the OP either. (I feel like we're playing the "not it!" game!) Thank you, 11:52 poster. I loved the points you made & think the analogy you used was great!

Friday, October 06, 2006, 12:05 PM

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(second) 12:05 poster here. I am also annoyed by incorrect grammar & spelling, but I realize that not everyone feels as strongly about it (nor should they-different opinions are what makes the Earth keep turning). I'm just happy people are posting & connecting with each other. Isn't that really the ultimate purpose of this site?

Friday, October 06, 2006, 12:08 PM

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