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Does anyone take Armour Thyroid Medication?

Just wondering if anyone takes Armour Thyroid meds..They are natural thyroid replacements..Would love to hear from someone who took Synthroid or Levoxal..the switched to Armour..

Tue. Jan 2, 5:02am

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Hi. I take levoxyl. I'd be interested in that answer also.

Tuesday, January 02, 2007, 9:40 AM

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me too. Anyone??

Wednesday, January 03, 2007, 7:57 PM

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I don't take armour but did a lot of research about it for my mom. I can't remember all of the better things about Armour, only in a general sense that it was a better choice but that traditional doctors would look at you like you were crazy when you request it. You have to find a doctor open to a wholelistic - yes I know it's holistic but I meant to write it as a whole, for whole approach, both eastern and western medicine. You will get discouraged if you go to a traditional doctor, they will tell you how bad it is. I will go back into my old research and try to post it here.

Wednesday, January 03, 2007, 9:06 PM

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OP here..Thanks 9:06 I would appriciate that..did your Mom switch?

Thursday, January 04, 2007, 5:19 AM

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OP, I remember learning a lot from this link. I will include more but this is a good place to start.


Thursday, January 04, 2007, 8:53 AM

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thanks for the link

Friday, January 05, 2007, 1:23 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I have been reading a lot of sites about this medicine i'm not sure what the problems is, but just this week my doctor in Houston put me on this medicine. He said he thought this one would work on me better. I have never been on any other medicine. I think i already notice a difference in my entergy. so i'll keep you updated.

Thursday, February 08, 2007, 2:47 PM

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I have been on armour for 6 and 1/2 years. I have never had a problem and I feel great. My sister was on it 38 years and was the picture of health. I researched it and was convinced that it was what I wanted. I have never regretted my decision. I have no idea why doctors do not want to prescribe it. My guess is, because it works and cuts back on their job and is not as expensive as the other drugs. dale

Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 10:50 PM

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Different drugs can affect different parts of the thyroid function. I initially took Synthroid then took a combo of Synthroid and Armour and had no different reaction than with Synthroid alone. I am now only on Synthroid. Armour is made from pig hormones. If Synthroid doesn't work for you then you should look into alternative meds. Synthroid/Levoxyl has been around forever too. I have no thyroid gland so I have to make sure I get the whole package with meds and have my levels checked every few months. Also, synthroid is not an expensive drug. Levoxyl is the generic and is less expensive to buy at the pharmacy without a co-pay (from my experience). Millions of people take it in many different dosage amounts. FYI - From my experience with 3 different endocrinologists they all recommended Synthroid and not the generic of Levoxyl because of inconsistencies in different batches. Anyone with thyroid problems I highly recommend seeing a specialist and not your primary physician. Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way.

Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 6:05 AM

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Armour thyroid

I have been on armour thyroid for about 4 years then my doctor that was treating me moved away. I went to a conventional doctor and she would not give it too me so I went back on synthroid for about 1 yr and finally found a doctor that would give armour to me again. Synthroid makes me feel wirey (if that is a word, but the best to describe it) now that I am back on armour if feel so much more calmer. Thats me. it could react different for you.
A doctor with DO instead of MD will be more likely to help you in this area.

Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 2:09 PM

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The only problem with Armour is it's more of a natural product than say Synthroid and therefore the dosage isn't consistent. Without consistent dosing, you are never maintained or stay level. My endo told me when your thyroid isn't maintained and always fluctuating, so do all other hormone levels, which we all know what that does!

I do agree, an Osteopath is a better solution than an MD. I am taking my daughter to an DO and he specializes in all natural and chinese medicines. He has found the culpret to her cough that she has had for 7 years! the other 18 docs couldn't find it. She is being greated with all natural enzymes rather than drugs.

Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 4:36 PM

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Armour (natural) Thyroid vs. Synthetic Meds

I take Armour Thyroid Medication for my Hypothroidism. It works great! I happened upon this site today, while researching the differences between the two medications. I am, apparently, late reading your posts of Jan. 07 posts! Maybe it will help someone else, if not you!
After entering Armour Thyroid medication into my search engine, I found a link: Thyroid Disease - Dear Doctor: Synthroid Vs. Armor? I was shocked to see a letter from a woman to her doctor who refused to write her a prescription for Armour Thythroid! This happened to me, as well! But her letter explains everything about both drugs.
In my case, I had been talked into taking Synthroid, instead of Armour by two Doctors. When this doctor had so much to say about the Armour Thyroid, I became worried. I even explained to him that it seemed like an allergic reaction to Synthroid...I swelled. especially in the face and eye area, I didn't feel good, was very sluggish in tthe mornings, and seemed to become even more depressed! His answer was, "Well, it's not supposed to do that!" I guess he didn't consider me qualified to know how MY body felt! Well, he didn't know it, but I was NOT going back on Synthroid!
When my perscription began running low, I called his nurse to have some called in. She said that he only used Synthroid! I asked her to check with him because I had told him how it had made me feel. She did, and returned to say that he said, "in no way could I write a perscription for Armour Thyroid! I thanked her, hung up, and never returned to see him again!
That was over ten years ago, and I am still on Armour and feeling great!

Saturday, June 16, 2007, 2:28 PM

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I have been on Synthroid for about 10 years and have continued to gain weight and not feel normal. I have told the GP this for years and he was only interested in writing a prescription for an anti depressant. I was shocked because I was only asking him to check my hormone levels and he only ran an fsh.
I recently went to a DO, and he has put me on Armour. He will also be running a full hormone panel of estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone. I would be interested to hear how others have done with the switch.

Wednesday, July 04, 2007, 4:08 PM

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This is so interesting. I have not heard of Armor. I did investigate alternative medicine last year because I have been on Synthroid for over 15 years. My weight keeps going up and I often wonder what consequences there are for being on a medication for that long.
I decided to experiment and take myself off Synthroid all together. That was a huge mistake. After only 8 weeks, my level shot to 347! (normal range is 0-3)
So, I got myself back on and I am very leary about taking anything else.

How can I be sure the dose is accurate for every pill I take? I wish there was something that can be done to speed up the metabolism without compromising the dose.

Sunday, July 29, 2007, 3:03 AM

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Sunday, July 29, 2007, 6:36 AM

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I've been on Armour for more than a year. I had a small amount of trouble switching at first. I went from .75 Synthroid to 90mg Armour (two 30mg pills in the am, and one 30mg pill at night). I was extremely jittery and felt it was too much of a dose. I cut myself down to 60mg for about 9 months but this was not enough medication to supplement my throid. I became depressed and very tired all the time. My doctor pushed me to go back on the 90mg dose again and this time I was successful. No jitters and I feel much better.

Sunday, July 29, 2007, 8:24 AM

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Armour vs. Synthroid

After being treated for Hyperthyroidism via radioactive iodine, I lost all thyroid function and now suffer from hypothyroidism. I was initially put on Synthroid by my endocrinologist, and almost immediately, I began suffering annoying side effects (severe muscle cramping, huge water/muscle mass gains - i looked like I was on steriods, etc.). After achieving "normal" thyroid hormone levels but feeling awful, I stopped taking it altogether. That was over 2 years ago. About 4 months ago, after switching doctors, I decided to take my new doc's recommendation and try Armour. I feel better than I have in the last four years. However, this may be specific to me....I was an unusual case to begin with, as I was a 29-year old male when diagnosed with hyperthyroidism (very rare). Would NEVER go back to synthroid.

Friday, August 17, 2007, 12:50 AM

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I switched from Synthroid to Armor two months ago, but we are still working on trying to find the right dosage.

Friday, August 17, 2007, 10:08 AM

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Armour Thyroid

I had my thyroid destroyed in Feb of this year because I had went from hypo to hyper in a matter of months. I was hypo from Nov 2003 to Oct 2006 but had switched from Synthroid to Armour which worked. Now I'm back to hypo and the doctor switched me to a higher dosage..90 mg. I've been feeling fine but have gained a little weight which worries me, I did not want to gain only maintain the weight. I don't know if it's because of the switch from 60mg to 90mg, I've only been on the 90mg for 2wks now but in those 2wks I've gained 5 lbs and climbing it seems like. The doctor had said that with the higher dosage it would speed up my metabolism but not working. Armour has worked in the past back when I was 164lbs in 2004 to 115lbs this year, but yes I was hyper which caused me to lose more than normal back in Nov. Is there anyone that could tell me if the weight will come off or am I doomed yet again? FYI, I have been working out for the past week , still don't over do it when I eat, but what ever I do or am doing is not getting the weight off.


Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 10:10 AM

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Doctor who prescribes Armour?

I had radioactive iodine treatment done on my thyroid last November. My entire thyroid was destroyed, leaving me hypothyroid. I have been taking Synthroid since then and I am miserable! I have gained 25 pounds, I'm constantly tired, have poor memory/concentration, muscle aches, depression etc... I want to try Armour, but I cannot find a doctor who will prescribe it. Will any of you who are taking Armour please post your doctor's info? Thank you!!

Thursday, August 30, 2007, 2:18 AM

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I was diagnost with hypothryoidism five years ago. I had been sick for probably a year before. When I first started taking synthroid it worked great. Now though I think it only worked so well because my levels were so off. I have spent the last three years telling my doctors that I still feel exhausted and swollen and just wish to feel better. None of them ever mentioned armour and I am looking for any one who has info.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 11:42 AM

Add comment ( there is a list of doc's who treat with Armour..

Also call the doctors office and ask if they will give Armour. ( even if they are on the list)
Endos aren't the best doctors..
DO's are very good..

Go here and read!!!

And here

Saturday, November 17, 2007, 6:24 AM

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armour thyroid

My Dr. also didn't want to give me Armour. I was on Synthroid for 24 yrs., didn't feel bad, or great either. I finally got on the Armour after doing much research,and I feel so much better, am sleeping better, not so hungry, better mood, and so on.
I read that Dr.'s don't believe there are methods used now to be sure the pill dosage is correct and the pills are stable. I told my Dr. that my body felt like it was lacking or craving something and he scoffed. But, I did go on it.
Any problems on your end ?

Sunday, November 18, 2007, 9:12 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I was on Levoxyl because I could not get Armour prescribed. After 6 months I finally located a doctor who prescribed me Armour. The difference was apparent from the 1st day. I felt great, energetic and alive. Doctors who will not prescribe Armour are robbing their patients of quality of life!!! I will never take Levoxyl or any form of T4 only medication again!!

Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 9:43 AM

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ARMOUR vs. Synthroid

I have been on both Levox. & Synth. AND I switched to ARMOUR. When on the first two I felt like lead had been poured into my body, my hair was falling out, I gained even more weight, the bulge on my neck got bigger and couldn't remember doodlie squat. It was about this time that a friend gave me the book "Is Your Thyroid Making You Fat" by Dr. Siegel. He discussed all of the above symptoms and talked about Armour so I got on the internet and researched it. I had a heck of a time getting a doc to prescribe it however. Finally I went back to the place I had researched Armour on and saw "find a doc in your area" so I did.

The first ARMOUR pill I felt like someone woke me up. Within a few months I had more energy than I had in years, the bulge on my neck got smaller, I lost weight, and my hair quit falling out. Me and one other sister have been on ARMOUR for years but my other sister was on Synthroid. She was developing diabetes, and had most of the symptoms I mentioned above. We finally convinced her to switch too and within a few months has noticed a big positive difference.

Another story: In August a friend told me she had developed diabetes. She has been on Synthroid for many, many years. I told her about Armour but she said she tried it many years ago. I told her about Thyrolar. Her doctor had never heard of it but did some research & put her on it. She called me at Thanksgiving and said she has lost ten pounds, her hair is growing faster, and her diabetes DISAPPEARED.

I believe drugs should make us feel BETTER not WORSE. If you are experiencing negative side effects TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

By the way, when I first started taking the ARMOUR my heart speeded up. (But shoudln't it if my metabolism is being boosted?) That settled down and disappeared within a few months.

Hope this is helpful to all of you. Keep me posted!

Tuesday, January 01, 2008, 3:36 AM

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YES - I tried both Levox & Synth. - neither worked for me.


Tuesday, January 01, 2008, 3:38 AM

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Armour thyroid

I have been on synthroid with all the bad complications and have tried Thyrolar also. I also have had RAI due to Graves Disesase/
I gained 60lbs in 3 years being treated by my Endo. He sent me to my regular physican, due to his thinking my weight gain and complaints weren't due to my medications. My physican was flaggergasted that he would do this.
He put me on Armour, I now take 160 mg and I have been on it for a year in october. I have lost 24 lbs. It is slowly coming off. I hold alot of fluid and he said it will take time,, but it will work
I felt better the second day I started taking it. I would never go back to the others again.

Friday, January 04, 2008, 9:11 PM

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Chronic Cough

Can you please tell me more about your daughter’s cough. My wife has had a chronic cough for about 15 years. We have been to more doctors then I can count and have spent thousands of $$$ to no avail.
My wife is also on Synthroid.

What was her problem and what was the solution?

ANY information you could give would be greatly appreciated.


Wednesday, January 09, 2008, 2:09 AM

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I take Armour after both synthroid and levoxyl

After being diagnosed with severe graves disease I had RAI (radioactive iodine) treatment, which had put me in hypothyroidism. I took Levoxyl for about 2 months when I started treatment it was okay I still felt the affects of being hypo. My doc then put me on Synthroid. I started gaining weight and still felt really crappy. I finally started with Armour about a year ago and it is way better for me. For the most part I am feeling what we so call more "normal". however, you do need to remember that I was hyperthyroid before hypothyroid some my "normal" could be different than yours.

The difference between the drugs is that Synthroid/Levoxyl are T4 drugs only and then we expect the T4 to convert to T3 for energy. Armour is a T3/T4 combo which is dessicated pig hormone so if you are not converting T4 into T3 it would be a better drug for you. Armour is a bio-identical hormone and it is a natural hormone.

The hype about Armour and the reason patients like it so much is because it gives you a T3 burst after you take it. So if you take half in the morning and half in the afternoon you feel energized throughout the whole day or "high." So it is really dependent on how bad your symptoms are if switch or not. I had to but I recommend that you feel good with Synthroid then why switch and have to start all over. Armour also becomes more dependent compared to Sythroid. It is a have to have type drug to be able to function.

My advice do lots of research before switching. Get all of the facts. Most doctors do not like putting patients on Armour because of the "high" you would get. If you are interested I have lots of websites that I can give you to look at.

Saturday, January 12, 2008, 3:03 PM

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I was on Synthroid for a little over a year. I had a hysterectomy and then went crazy! Depressed sad, mood swings rapid weight gain. Then I switched doctors and found one that would give me Armour. Wow, the difference. I feel so much better. I have more energy, less mood swings, no weight being gained either. I am still struggling to lose weight but I haven't gained any and that is a good thing. I highly suggest talking to your doctor about Armour. If your doctor won't talk about it, consider them close minded and find someone who will. Armour is less expensive, I don't even claim it on my insurance. A months worth at my dose is about $10 as opposed to the $20 it cost for Synthroid.

Monday, January 14, 2008, 11:26 AM

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armor thyroid

i have been on armor foe30 years now they want to change it cause the insurance people say theyu are going to quit making it. i have tryed synthoid but it never worked for me

Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 5:16 PM

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Armour Thyroid

Yes I take Armour Thyroid and I LOVE it!! It is the best I have tried the others and they did not work I felt sick no energy, weight problems they said I had sinus problems, When I got onto Armour it all changed. I got my mom started on it and she says the same. Yes it is hard to find a Doctor that will write for it but if you go to the Armour site you can find a Doctor in your area that will write for it thats what I had to do. It is well worth the change.

Thursday, January 17, 2008, 10:08 PM

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I have many hypo symptoms despite taking 200mcg of synthroid. I saw an endo years ago who said I shouldn't need the dose I was taking (at the time 175). I'm seriously thinking of persuing the armour thing. I really don't believe that I am converting this correctly and hence the huge dose. I'm constantly tired and achey. My doc just checks my TSH and tells me I'm fine.


Sunday, January 20, 2008, 9:35 PM

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Hello every one.. I have been diagnosed with Hypothyrodism since I was 15 years old... I am 21 years old now... and have been on Levo for 3 years... I feel good but not GREAT.. I have had lots of weight gain as well, but have recently stopped gaining> THANK GOD!! The thing is I get so Moody I feel every single thing irritates me and I explode, then I feel so bad. I can sometimes be ok, then just a little something happens and I am incontrolably mad and I feel I can't help it.. Can this Armour help me... How has it helped you all in your experience with this issue on mood swings?? I was never like this before.. I am so desperate because it is causing pain in my marriage.. also, has anyone had problems conceiving??

Monday, January 21, 2008, 12:53 AM

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Along with my Armour I also have a prescription for .25mg of Xanax. I take it for occasional anxiety and I get 30 tablets and they last for 3 months. So It isn't like an every day thing for me. The only thing I notice with them is that ifI take one of themeven at the low dose, and have even 1 beer or 1 glass of wine, I am loopy and sometimes forget things. So not that I am a drug pusher or anything, but if you get that prescription feel free to get the generic brand but thenbe sure to remember no drinking for you. Xanax has saved my Hubby adn myself from a few anxiety fueled arguments.

Wednesday, January 23, 2008, 4:36 PM

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Armour Rocks

I have been on armour for probably 6 years I was on levoxyl before that. The doctor that decided to give it to me I would not recommend for any reason unfortunately. Armour is the only good thing he did. Let me try to make this short I am severly hypo but my thyroid every once in a while gets a energy burst and starts producing like it should. We dr x decided to try to stop it by overloading my body with levoxyl. Well ok I could have dealt with that because if he had succeeded it would be a ton easier to keep my levels correct. The issue is he never told me his plan and what I might deal with. Well I called to get my results one day and discovered I was 3 times higher than I should have been I got another call saying he wanted to increase my dose again. Well I ignored that request and did a naughty I went off my meds for about a month. My dizzy spells stopped and my joint pain decreased by at least half . I felt better than I had in a year. I then went and yelled at him well thats when he admitted what he was trying to do and said he thought a combined t3/t4 would be a better option since i was still hurting all the time it was just better than my levels were 3 times too high. Within 2 wks I felt wonderful. I have been on it ever since.

Sunday, January 27, 2008, 1:15 AM

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I've been taking Armour now for going on 2 years and I feel like a human being again!!!. I was on a syn med for about 3 years and I got a little better, but I still wasn't where I needed to be. I would recommend Armour to anyone that's not getting the results they need from their current med.

Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 9:37 AM

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Armour Thyroid

I've been taking Armour Thyroid after FINALLY being diagnosed by Dr. John Gonino. It's like my MD was afraid to put me on Thyroid meds although she would ask me each time she saw me (big eyes) if I was taking thyroid meds OR have we ever tested your thyroid.
Well Dr. G looked at my physical symtoms, saw that I had been taken Citalopram for depression for almost 1 year (prescribed by the MD) and saw that my Thyroid blood test levels were low normal.
Since I've been taking the Armour my menstrual cycles have been sooooo much BETTER. I've been severely anemic for 22 yrs and I will know within the month if the anemia is corrected. I feel like it is normal now but I'll know for sure and post again. I have more energy, I'm no longer depressed, I feel good.
I saw my MD yesterday and when she realized I'm taking Armour she spoke to me for a long while about how you can get these meds over the counter or online. I should have asked where can I get them over the counter but I didn't. I think the point was the meds are not as good as the synthetics.
Anyway I will see the MD again in Feb. for blood work and they ask that I bring them the blood test results from Dr. G.
Meanwhile I am doing my own research and asking questions because it is my body after all.
Take care everyone,

Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 10:44 AM

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Hypothyroid - Problems conceiving

My step-daughter was on Synthyroid for years; tried to conceive for ten years. Not sure why her doc changed her to armour, but she conceived within the first month or two.

That's why when I was diagnosed I asked for armour. My DO did it without hesitation. I feel great; been on it about a year. Haven't lost the weight, but have quit gaining. I only take 15 mg. daily.

Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 1:41 PM

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I was told that if you have had Thyroid cancer they like you to stay on Synthroid. Is that true?

Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 3:25 PM

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Hi....I'm on synthriod....I am also interested in knowing about any alternatives. I would like to add that losing weight is a challenge...especially having hypothyroidism.

Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 9:17 PM

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armour thyroid medication

Hi, I live in the U.K. and this drug is not licensed here. Could anyone tell me where to purchase it on-line ? I am planning to see a specialist about the correct dosage, of course.

Thanks so much, dorncorus.

Thursday, January 31, 2008, 2:42 PM

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Thyroid rollercoater

After many years of wt gain/depresson/fatigue under the care of a GP, my GYN suggested I was hypothyroid after reviewing my "clinical picture" aka my symptoms,( mind you my labs were just fine.) I started on small doses of Armour years ago and have worked my way to 180mg. I feel wonderful, the weight has come off with a good diet and exercise. More energy and a much improved outlook on life. Thyroid labs many times DO NOT reflect what is going on inside a woman's body. I truelly believe this. Recently, my RX was having trouble getting my Armour. The impressed on me the decreased price and "predicability" of levothyroxine. So I switched. OH ! If I could turn back time. I was switched to 175mcg. (a little less than the conversion charts My GP is also a Pharmacist so I laid my trust in this. After 6 weeks, I felt great, weight was coming off (scarily so) and I had extremely high energy. Almost at a manic point. Also had trouble sleeping etc... Then I noticed that my hair was severly thinning.Coming out in my brush, find it in the sink/shower. OMG. For a female, this can be very very life altering. Blogs I had prevoiusly read had mentioned this (I said This won't happen to me). DR and RX said "No Way" your thyroid wouldn't cause this. MY levels were excellent, so why was all this happening?? OH It will slow down as your thyroid gets used to things. How long?? Weeks, Months?? No one could tell me. So, after little debate, I switched back to my Armour. I take it in the AM with afull glass of water (coffee) then wait an hour for food etc... (Like you are instructed for your Levothyoxine (Synthroid)) After a couple weeks, I am beginning to feel like my self again. I still have hair. I feel sane. Never again will my Thyroid meds be messed with. OH yeah, another Pharmacist (same RX) had heard of many cases of the hair issues. Switching back usually resolved this for others too.Now there are probably many who take Synthroid etc w/o problems. But, I for one knows where my alliance is Good luck all.


Sunday, February 03, 2008, 11:33 AM

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can you please give more websites

i was reading your thread and i am new to all this hypothyroid stuff. I was just diagnosed 6 months ago. supposedly my levels were not severe but i have so many of the symptoms now that i am not getting any better. I would love to take armour and i think i will only because my energy is lacking but if you can provide more websites on it besides the armour website i would greatly appreciate it

Thursday, February 07, 2008, 9:51 AM

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Yes on the Armour

I took just about all the synthetic thyroid meds from the time I was 21 to 35 yrs. Last I was on Synthroid. I was in a heavy duty fog all the time. I just thought that it was me (with young child, lack of sleep, and low iron).

I read in the LA Times Pharmacy Q/A section of a woman whose husband had the same symptom. He just happened to have taken Synthroid also. Through that article I learned of the T3 T4 factor and that Synthroid only has T4. She also said that her husband was switched to Armour Thyroid and his symptoms immediately improved as Armour has both T3 and T4. The reply stated that some people do better with both T3 & T4.

I immediately made an appointment with my doctor and requested to switch. I have been taking Armour for 15 years now. It is very hard to find the right dose and some doctor's don't like it because of that, but for me the benefits outweigh that problem. I'm still having a dosage problem. I would never want to go back to the other meds though. Hope my experience helps.

Thursday, February 07, 2008, 10:06 PM

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Armour has a lot of info along with a link to a hypothyroid info page. I have had great results having my thyroid sx treated with it.. I'm not sure of other sites but just a general google may work. Good luck


Friday, February 08, 2008, 10:57 PM

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armour thyroid

I prescribe armour thyroid to all my patients. It just makes sense. The conversion of thyroxine (T4)(inactive form of thyroid hormone) to T3 (the active form of thyroid hormone) is dramatically affected by stress, as well as medications especially beta-blockers. Using armour thyroid twice a day, alleviates concerns of medication varaiability by MD's prescribing synthroid. I usually recommend it upon awakening, and around 1:00 in the afternoon, as it has a short half life(8 hours) and the T3 is gone by late afternoon, resulting in late afternoon exhaustion. Following patients symptoms is most important, followed by free T3 levels. I rarely regard or adjust therapy of the TSH when on armour thyroid therapy.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 11:25 AM

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What are the proper ranges. My doctor said I was at .83. What does that mean?

Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 1:08 PM

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Armour Thyroid NO NO NO

You all probably already know this, but since I haven't read this exactly on anyone's posts, I thought I would share my experience with Armour Thyroid.

I was put on Armour Thyroid along with Levoxyl by a Primary Care Physician who had a "special interest" in Thyroid related issues. Looking back on this now, I am really surprised that a Rheumatologist is the person who referred me to the PCP when my thyroid levels were the only thing that was out of the appropriate range. Before going to this particular PCP, I was on Thyroid meds (I can't remember which kind ... maybe Levoxyl) prescribed by a different PCP. Anyway, after being on the combination of both Levoxyl and Armour Thyroid for about 1 year, I went to a PCP closer to my home since I was just suffering from sinus infection symptoms. While this PCP was looking at my chart to see what types of meds I was on and what to prescribe for my cold, she asked me "why are you on two different types of thyroid hormone"? I said "because that is what this other PCP put me on"! She said "I want you to go see an Endocrynologist who specializes in thyroid issues, not just a PCP who has a special "Interest" in thyroid. She recommended that I go see this Endocrynologist.

This is what the Endocrynologist told me about Armour Thyroid:

He said: The people that make "Armour Thyroid" are the same people who make "Armour Hotdogs and Hamburgers". He said about 30 years ago, the company "Armour" put their hotdogs and hamburgers on the market to retail, but failed to strip the thyroid tissue completely off of the meat before converting it into hotdogs and hamburgers. They put it on the market and a lot of people began getting really sick from getting too much hormone, when they did not have thyroid issues that needed extra thyroid hormone. They were forced by the FDA to take it off of the market which presented a big financial problem for this company, since they had all of this meat that they could do nothing with. Armour asked the FDA if they could convert it into "pill format" and market it to the pharmaceutical companies for thyroid hormone. The FDA said "Sure, go ahead"... hense the name "Armour Thyroid". My Endocrynologist showed me in the book that doctors look at to select the best fit for different prescription drugs ... "Armour Thyroid". He said "endocrynologists no longer prescribe "Armour Thyroid" to their patients because of the inconsistencies in each pill of the amount of hormone that is available. In that book, next to Armour Thyroid it said "OBSOLETE". He said that a couple of problems that Armour Thyroid brings with it in addition to the amount of hormone in each pill is that it has been known to cause over a period of time "congestive heart failure" and also "increases the chances of developing osteoperosis". He said that he had a patient who came to him after being on Armour Thyroid for approximately 10 years. She was in her early 40's but had the bones of about a 65 year old woman. He also said that he continually sees patients who have been on Armour Thyroid be put into the hospital for congestive heart failure.

This info really made me thankful to be in the hands of my Endocrynologist and I am now back on "ONLY LEVOXYL" and for the most part, a very healthy person.

Monday, February 18, 2008, 9:37 PM

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Armour Thyroid is manufactured by Forest Laboratories, Inc.
Armour® Thyroid (thyroid USP) is a prescription thyroid medication. It is considered to be a "natural" product, since it is made from thyroid glands of pigs.

Synthetic thyroid replacement medications, sold under the name levothyroxine (Levoxyl®, Levothroid®, Synthroid®, and others) were also unapproved until recently. The FDA required each of these medications to perform the necessary studies and seek approval. It is possible that the FDA may require natural thyroid products to do the same in the future.

Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 12:49 PM

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Thyroid Meds

I have taken Armour since June 06 (60 mg). I had taken every other thyroid med for 8 years prior and nothing worked for me until I started Armour. I never felt right on the other meds. Tired, faigued, poor memory, cold, etc. etc.
I finally started Armour in June 06 and within a week I was a new person. I started running again and not just running but I was not napping afterwards. I lost 10 pounds from June to August and did not diet, just increased my energy level to a normal person. Then by August 06 I was running every day. By May 07 I had lost 40 pounds. I was happier than I had been in 8 years. My hair was growing, my nails were growing and I started to run races again. Then after 11 years of not getting pregnant and did try not to, I suddenly was pregnant again. I had thought after 11 years I just wasn't going to ever get pregnant. Wham here it is Feb. 08' and I have a 14 yr old., an 11 year old, and a 7 week old. I am trying hard to lose my last 15 pregnancy pounds, but that will just take some work. I sware by Armour and I quickly shun any new doctor that try's to tell me to decrease my dose or change pills.


Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 12:01 PM

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Gaining Weight.

It seems since I started on Amour and levothyroxine I have had an even hareder time losing weight? Before I was on it I work out everyday at least 1 hour if not an extra half an hour at night. I include. Cardio, strength training, yoga and watch what I eat. I try to stay in about 1200 to 1300 calorie diet.I have continued this lifestyle but have not lost hardly anything? I also have a 9 1/2 year old, 8, 6 and 3 1/2 year old. I is never dull. I can't figureit out??? I will lose 1 maybe 2 pounds in week than eat out once and gain 3 pounds over night?? It is so frustrating. I have lost about 65 already but I thought that since I found out that my thyriod was low and went on this medication it would help? I don't know what else to do??? Help give me some advice ??

Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 12:47 PM

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Thyroid Medications

ALL THYROID REPLACEMENT PRODUCTS can affect osteoporosis if used improperly, not just Armour or natural replacements so it's very unfair to single out one product and scare people.

Many, many people with thyroid conditions also have other "autoimmune disorders" of which conditions like Hashimoto's Thyroiditis are one. If you've been diagnosed with a thyroid condition, the best thing you can do for yourself is to research everything available.

Do searches on autoimmune disorders and learn about it, it will open up your eyes and answer questions that even your doctor can't or won't answer.
Research the beginnings of Synthroid, learn that the company practically wrote every text book back in the 50's and 60's on thyroid. They donated millions in teaching aids to colleges until almost everything our present day doctors have been taught has come from the largest manufacturer of synthetic thyroid. Do you think that may be why there is such negativity about natural products? You decide.
Research what regulations are in place to assure patients their medications fall within the guidelines of potency...again, to say that Armour can't regulate the potency like Synthroid or a synthetic can is bias and unfair to consumers. Sythroid and synthetic thyroid also range in potency from batch to batch sometimes.

Research the lawsuit against the manufacturer of Synthroid, Abbott.
Research the side effects of Synthroid, which can be difficult to find because our physicians most shrug off the tiredness, the loss of hair, the gain of weight, etc. Most of the printed literature will not tell you about the side effects, you learn them on your own or by talking to others who have taken Synthroid or other synthetics.

One thing I’ve learned early on is that thyroid conditions are not usually life threatening and aren’t glamorous like other conditions, our doctors become complacent and we are often looked upon as just whining because it’s not a “serious disease” and told, just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and stop complaining.

If you hear this from your physician, find yourself another doctor. It may be a hard road and take time but you owe it to yourself.

I have a wonderful endocrinologist who is involved in research with diabetes (autoimmune), human growth hormone deficiency (autoimmune), thyroid conditions (autoimmune)...kinda getting the picture here about autoimmune disorders? He is the best doctor I’ve ever had for my condition. Where my own PCP would freak out when my tsh dropped below “normal”, he doesn’t. Some patient’s tsh is naturally low, he knows it runs in my family and it doesn’t cause him to “adjust” my dosage for that reason.

To find what’s right for you whether synthetic or natural, DO YOUR RESEARCH!

Synthetic thyroid like Synthroid doesn’t contain T3...only T4. Learn what the difference is, learn how your body uses both of these hormones and why they are so important. Learn what TSH is and what it does and what most physicians consider normal may not be normal for you.

When you are educated and informed, your physician will most times be more likely to discuss his choice in medications and may be more open to change. If he/she still isn’t willing to talk to you about it, it’s time for a new doctor.

While we can all share our own stories about what works best for us, you must find what works for you and the only way to do that is learn about your condition so get to it~do that search and take the time to be informed. Make sure you are comfortable and have a cup of coffee by your side, once you start reading, you won’t be able to pull yourself away.
Good luck.

Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 11:51 AM

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losing weight with hypothyroid, Hashimoto's

I rode the the "I can't lose weight due to my thyroid train for years. When I was first diagnosed I was happy because at least there was a reason for the way I was feeling. I went from a ...125lbs to 160lbs by the time I got diagnosed and I 'm only 5 FT 1. My weight eventually went to 205lbs after two pregnancies. I then had a friend suggest to me to once again try Atkins, because I'm not a big pasta eater or potato and at the time I had already eliminated sugar from my morning coffee, so I thought what have I got to lose , lets try again I thought, But there was no way I was giving up my morning 3 cups of coffee. (bad I know)

I lost 45lbs in 3mth cutting my breads , sugar and processed foods . I have gained back 12 lbs in 2ys , and I'm trying right now for another 30lbs.

My whole point is weight lose is obtainable with thyroid, stop wasting time and pick a program that suits you.

Good luck and blessings


Thursday, February 28, 2008, 12:38 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I took Armour Thyroid about six months ago. Got severe headaches. Doctor told me to cut the dose in half. The headaches went away. By the time I went back to see the doctor, I had developed a rash on my arms as well as joint pain. I have not seen any positive results, but the dermatologist did a biopsy that came back as an allergic reaction.

Monday, March 03, 2008, 1:51 PM

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Graves Disease now Hypothyroid

I went undiagnosed for almost 3 years. I went to doc after doc stating to them that something wasn't right. I was nervous, I had severe insomnia, my hand tremors were so bad that I couldn't open my mail, I was diagnosed w/ IBS and I had a sinus infection for 10 months. They gave me every excuse in the book. It wasn't until I was having such severe palpitations that I went to the ER and someone finally checked my thyroid. I was off the charts. The docs couldn't believe how bad off I really was. I originall tried taking the PTU but I just kept getting worse. I finally opted for the RAI and w/in 2 months I hit rock bottom. I had no idea what was wrong w/ me. I couldn't keep my eyes open and I the muscle cramps were so severe I couldn't walk. My husband had to take me to the ER were I was admitted for almost a week.
It has now been about 8 weeks since I was discharged from the hospital. I take 137mcg of Levothyroxine. I am still sluggish. My TSH was still high in the 20's on my last blood draw but my doc was reluctant to raise my meds because my T3 is w/in normal range but I still don't feel ok. Most days I could sleep for 12 hrs and others I seem to be ok. I'm having a hard time understanding all of this. I need help. Am I ever going to feel normal again. I am frustrated and sometimes I get really down about this. I try to talk w/ me friends and family about it but no one understands.

Monday, March 03, 2008, 4:01 PM

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Armour Thyroid is best

Ask any doctor who is informed by research rather than his/her pharmaceutical rep: Armour Thyroid--a natural product--is best. It's shocking that doctors berate Armour Thyroid, saying that it's unreliable, when it's a more complete treatment and no more reliable or unreliable than the synthetics. Too many MDs are in bed with the pharmadeutical companies. I am fortunate to have an MD who's not--in fact, he deosn't even belong the AMA. Click on the link for an excellent website.


Wednesday, March 05, 2008, 4:20 PM

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I recently switiched to armour because my sister was taking it and said it made her feel totally normal.

I've been on it 2 weeks now and I have to agree. I feel almost like I did before my Hashimoto's started making itself known to me. I am so glad I swithched.

Thursday, March 06, 2008, 9:45 PM

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I'd really like to know everyone's dosage and if they are swallowing the pill or dissolving it under their tongue. I just switched to Armour (2 days ago) I can't say I'm better or worse yet. No anxiety attacks thus far. That's good. Still a little sluggish in the morning. I'm starting on the low dose of 1 1/2 grains or 90 mg. I understand I should start slow. Also, how long do you wait before you eat or drink coffee or tea. Thanks so much for sharing.

Thursday, March 27, 2008, 8:43 AM

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I am on 60mg. Swallow the pill. Do not eat anything or drink anythingbesides water for 2 hours prior and 1 hour after. That is important for proper absorption. I take mineas soon as I wake inthe AM. Then by the timeI am showered and dressed the hour is about up.
If you feel light headed or dizzy, if you feel your heart race, or you get tremors see your doctor IMMEDIATELY.

Thursday, March 27, 2008, 9:41 AM

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Weight gain after swiching to Armour from Levoxyl - help -- Why?

I just made a switch to Armour 3 weeks ago and my basel temp has stayed the same. I was told if I switched that my T3 would go up and that it was too low after a urine test done in NJ that tells you your T3. I was on about 115 mcgs Levoxyl for the last 10 years or so, and noticed lately some racing heart at times, no trouble sleeping, maybe too many naps or not staying up as late, notice lots of hair falling out - clumps in the shower over 5 days - but thought that was normal for my age, 52 female. Recently went to holistic doc and took my homone levels and thyroid using urine test and found my t3 was low so he switched me to Nature-Throid, i believe it is like Armour. I stared taking 3 1/2 grains (32.5mgs) which should put me at about the same as the Levoxyl but I noticed a little uplifting but each week I am gaining 1 or more pounds without varying my food plan at all. Yikes, does this mean I need to tale Levoxyl and Armour? Why am I gaining weight???

Sunday, March 30, 2008, 12:08 AM

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I switched from levothyroxin to the armour after having a difficult time with irritability and headaches on the levo. I had a total thyroidectomy following thyroid cancer, so these meds are crucial for me. I love the armour. I feel more energetic, clearminded, no bad side effects, and emotionally stable. It has been a fantastic switch for me. Any more specific questions?

Wednesday, April 02, 2008, 2:13 AM

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prescribing dr. for armour

I am in Silverton, Oregon and my Dr. is Dr. Harrison Waters. 503-873-5310 He may even do a long distance consult...who knows...but the armour and the relief it gives is worth any cost in my opinion.

Wednesday, April 02, 2008, 2:18 AM

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I have been on armour for 16 years. My Dr. believed in as close to natural you could get. It works and works on bothT3 and T4. All the others only work on one of them. You can not go wrong on armour. Its cheap and safe. Have a nice day. Maggie

Friday, April 04, 2008, 7:02 PM

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Synthroid Vs. Armour

I took 50 micrograms of Synthroid for about six months, I had more energy, but it wasn't worth being sick everyday. So I went back to the Doctor and had to ask specifically for Armour thyroid, Been on it a month and I immmeadietly started feelling better. Feel great right now.

Saturday, April 05, 2008, 5:18 PM

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armour thyroid

does anyone know where to find a list of doctors that prescribe armour thyroid in east texas?

Sunday, April 06, 2008, 12:18 AM

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I saw your post and can answer your question.
I took Armor thyroid for many years with great success. Then they invented Syntheroid and the doctors talked me into trying it because they said that they could regulate the dosage better than with Armor. I was on Syntheroid for awhile and started getting heart beat irregularities. The doctor told me I had to stay on them so I changed doctors. The next doctor said I had been on too high a dose and that it could have caused a heart attack. We started on a lower dose of Syntheroid and kept building it up until I started having the heart problems again. I refused to take them or any of the other synthetics. A year or so I read that Syntheroid had never received FDA approval and although they fought it, they had to comply and send in their records. It was then publicized that many women had heart attacks from Syntheroid and many had died.
Armor has T3 and T4 while the synthetics only have one of the T's. So Armor gives your gland more of what your gland needs and does it naturally.
I have been on Armor for over 20 years and will continue to take it. has information on this. Use the search box and enter Syntheroid.
I hope this information is a help to you.

Friday, April 11, 2008, 12:02 PM

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armour dosing?

Like many on this site, i have thyroid issues. I'm 58 years old and have low throid. Was diagnosed with graves disease in my 20's. Had radio active iodine and have been on synthroid for 25 years. Recently when my new doctor checked my levels and they were low he switched me to armour 30mg. a day.That was this past august. Sine then i have gained 40 lbs., have zero energy, fat swollen neck,no memory, the list goes on. I tried to get him to check levels months ago but he said i was depressed and should join a health club.(mind you some days i cant even get out of bed) My old doctor always checked my levels one month after any dosing adjustments. Anyway after 6 plus months I was told no more refills till i get my levels checked. Well you guess it, they were very low. Today they are calling in a script of armour 100 mgs. (more then 3 times what i was taking) and my question to anyone who might know, is there a set dosing amount with armour or is it trial and error? I am praying that this higher amount will get me back to normal. It also sounds like some take it all at once and some 2 times a day. Whats better? Thanks, lyn

Friday, April 11, 2008, 1:42 PM

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Saturday, April 12, 2008, 11:07 PM

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Levoxyl and Dimentia

My mother has been on Levoxyl since 1998. She started going down hill immediately after. In 2003 it was very apparent that she had Dimentia/memory loss. She has mood swings and tantrums caused by depression and dimentia. Now I am convinced that Levoxyl caused her Dimentia. I want to take her off Levoxyl and maybe try Armour Thyroid. I hope she can come back and get better. Has anyone ever thought of a lawsuit against the makers of Levoxyl? It really messed up my mother's life.

Sunday, April 13, 2008, 2:51 PM

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I have just started taking Armour. I was on Synthroid I say for about 2 weeks when I started getting really bad headaches so bad I almost went to the ER. I stopped taking it for 3 days headache gone. So my doctor switched me to Armour so far so good no more killer headaches. I haven't checked my levels yet again to see how much it's working yet. Will let you know in a few weeks.

Monday, April 14, 2008, 10:20 AM

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Armour vs. Synthroid (synthetic hormone for Hypothyroidism)

Hyperthyroid in 2003 - took Iodine 131 Radiation to partially destroy thyroid - been Hypothyroid ever since. Have taken snythetic synthroid/levothroid for last 4+ years. Had increased the dosage multiple times throughout the years, felt like being on a roller-coaster of highs & lows. Never felt "right", missed a lot of work, and even worse I missed a lot of my life over the past 5 years trying to get this figured out. Experienced Brain Fog, & lots of other symptoms, muscle cramps, exhaustion/energy depletion, weight gain (couldn't loose anything even at 1200/day calorie intake w/exercise), alarming hair loss, depression, uncharacteristic moodiness, dry skin, gritty eyes, etc. you name it - I expereinced it. Finally late January 2008 switched to Armour - at my request. Modified the dosage higher 3/24/08.
Difference is UNBELIEVABLE & AWESOME!!!! Have lost 8-10 pds. (Have a lot more to loose - but now it feels possible). Brain Fog has finally lifted - have the energy to do things I just couldn't because of exhaustion over the past 5 years since becoming hypothyroid. I do support taking the daily dosage 1/2 in the am 1/2 in the pm as it's affects are more instantanious and synthroid isn't. I've felt my heart racing like it was when I was Hyperthyroid, so splitting the dosage keeps the level more constant. I'm not 100% back to what I remember as "feeling normal" but I'm getting there. And I finally believe I'm on my way!!!

I discussed my concerns and my desires to change from a synthetic hormone to a natural one, having researched Armour & the differences with my Dr. We discussed why Dr.'s don't typically prescribe Armour and yet I insisted I wanted to try. And agreed to monitor with monthly blood tests, but that's no different than what I've been doing for 5 years. It's MY BODY, MY LIFE, MY WELLBEING - You know your body better than anyone else. It simply comes down to some of us with hypothyroidism need the T3 in addition to the T4 and can not relying on the Synthroid T4 to convert and provide our bodies with enough T3.

Monday, April 14, 2008, 3:00 PM

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My doctor is discussing me getting on Armour. Synthroid actually makes me more tired, but that was the only side effect I noticed (however, I am prone to headaches, so who knows?). I'm actually taking a stimulant right now, which is making me jittery, but I'm actually getting things done. I am hoping, though, that I will be put on Armour.

Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 2:17 PM

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Armour Thyroid

For years I have been on synthetic thyroid medicines and my thyroid just kept getting worse, most recently I was on Levoxyl for my thryoid and Cytomel for my parathyroid. Still, I was getting worse, I couldn't even read a book to my kid without losing my voice and getting exhausted. Someone recommended Armour Thyroid. I called my Dr. and she was apprehensive, but I insisted. Within a month I felt like my old self. I love it! I never lose my voice, I have energy, etc. It has been one year and my TSH levels have consistantly tested in line with what they should be. It is worth a try! GOOD LUCK :)

Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 8:30 AM

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Graves Disease now Hypothyroid

I too had the same problems you described in your post. Let me start by saying that the range of "normal" for thyroid is very large. If your doctor won't listen to you, find a new one. Get and keep all copies of your bloodwork. One of the things that helped me finally get my doc's attention was the fact that my vitals were all very low, including my temp (take and keep a record each morning before your feet hit the floor) then he listened for a minute. I didn't start feeling better until I started taking Armour Thyroid (T3 & T4) combo. My endo did not want to put me on this, but I insisted, after 3 months he wanted me back on Synthroid even though I was feeling a lot better. I decided to find a doctor that was actually interested in his/her patients well being. Read, read, read, and don't let medical professionals tell you how YOU feel. You are the judge of that. Good Luck.

Sunday, April 20, 2008, 6:50 PM

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Be careful with the self meds!

Thyroid disorders are coplex. First of all there are several thyroid hormones. My endo is concerned with T3s and T4s because I have thyroid cancer. Synthroid and Levoxl are supposed to be the same, but are metabolized differently. Consistency is important with either. I think the Synthroid symptoms may be in part to the fact that usually a person looses part of their thyroid before they are on meds. Those are all hypothyroid sympotms. If you have lost your whole thyroid, you may need more than one replacement type of medicine. Cytomel is often presrcribed for the tiredness. I haven't tried it though. Body chemistry is tough. You will gain about 30 pounds figuring it all out, but I promise, if you have a good endo, you will drop it when the balance is found. It may be as simple as waiting for your body to adjust to absorbing the synthetic chemicals. Also, do not take your synthroid or levoxyl with anything calcium related. In fact, take your vitimin at night because calcium drasticly reduces the amount of the synthetic hormone that is absorbed. As for the natural supplements, if you have been diagnosed with any type of thyroid cancer don't take them. They show up as natural thyroid hormone and that will skew your cancer tests. If your endo isn't listening to your complaints, find a new one. No one should have scaley skin or hair loss without a doctor caring

Sunday, April 20, 2008, 8:30 PM

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armour in the UK

I have just found this website. I was taking synthetic thyroxine for 5 years and not feeling any benefit at all. My doctor has just prescribed armour. I live in the UK! I will be perfectly honest. I have been taking it for a month and feel worse instead of better BUT that could just be a dosage issue. After the first month my levels were very low and so he's put up the dosage to 90mg a day. Only been taking this a couple of days and haven't noticed any change as yet.

I researched armour and suggested it to my doctor, initially he said he couldn't prescribe it because it's not licenced by our local medical authority, but all of a sudded he's had a change of heart.

Try persisting with your doctor. You might get somewhere in the end.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008, 12:10 PM

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Armour and Synthroid

I have been diagnosed with Hashimoto's and have been on synthroid for nearly a year. I did have have half of my thyroid removed to check for cancer (negative). Even at my sickest, my levels always came back in the normal range. I had to really push it to convince my endocrinologist to increase the original dosage. After a couple of months on the raised dosage, I started feeling lousy again. I went ot my family doctor who upped the dosage. I felt great for about 3 months and then started the downhill slide. He has now given me a prescription for Armour to be added to the current synthroid dosage. I have an appt. for a checkup with the endo in a couple of weeks. I'm positive he won't like me taking Armour, but I'm feeling like I need to do something because I'm tired of having to fight the system to try to feel better. I KNOW when I'm not feeling right!! I haven't started taking the Armour (just had the prescription filled), so what would you all advise? Should I go ahead and start it and let the endo scream, or should I wait and talk to him about it first? Thanks for any help you can give me!

Friday, April 25, 2008, 4:23 PM

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Armour vs Levothyroxine

I was on Synthroid for 14 years and felt lousy. I found out that synthroid depletes b complex and it also leaches calcium from the bones. I was depressed a lot. I switched to Armour and had a complete 360. I felt great on Armour, but just found out from my doctor and pharmacist that I can't get it anymore. The government has taken it of the shelves to test for it's efficacy and safety (sounds like trouble to me). Has anyone else had the same problem? My doctor prescribed Levothyroxine and I immediately started gaining weight , became constipated and depressed.
I miss Armour and am hoping it is still available somewhere.

Friday, April 25, 2008, 11:02 PM

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I just had a prescription for Armour filled two days ago. The pharmacist didn't say anything about it begin taken off the market.

Saturday, April 26, 2008, 5:04 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I'm sold on Armour Thyroid. It would be a travesty to take it off the market; I sincerely doubt that will happen. I've taken Armour Thyroid for about 20 years with good results. I ignorantly (and I mean that literally) let an Internist switch me from Armour Thyroid to Synthroid & my hair started falling out. I went to an Endocronologist who educated me about why it matters which brand of thryroid you take. The discussion a few posts earlier about T3's and T4's explains what I learned from the Endocronologist. Synthroid only contains one; Armour contains both. The doctor put me back on Armour, my hair grew back, and I have no questios about the difference between meds & my unconditional preference for Armour. I'm 66 and going strong. I do have a doctor who practices both conventional & alternative medicine. If my doctor refused to prescribe Armour, I'd find one who would.

Tuesday, April 29, 2008, 8:49 AM

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Your Comment "NoNoNo Armour Thyroid"

I want to comment on your intimidating and grossly incorrect information regarding Armour Thyroid. Shame on you! You realize that the people that take the time to communicate on this site are real people. People who are challenged by their symptoms, fears, appearances, etc....and you have the spirit and confidence to write information that is a lie.

Forest Pharmaceutical is the largest manufacturer of Armour Thyroid in the United States. I will assume the people on this site are from the U.S. but forgive me if I am making an assumption that is incorrect. Yes, Forest Pharmaceutical. This pharmaceutical company manufactures THYROLAR AND LEVOTHROID. That's right. They manufacture all three.

I think it is imperative that this site is maintained through honesty, concise and accurate information, as much as possible.

The website for more information about Forest Pharmaceuticals and Armore Thyroid is:


Friday, May 23, 2008, 6:11 PM

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As a 50 year old women who has used Armour (120MG.) for the last 17 years I will tell you not to let anyone, Endro. or Doc. tell you you can not take it due to it is not regulated. I was appalled to hear from "MY NEW AND THIRD" Endro. in California that I was killing myself by taking Armour Thyroid, I told him what I thought of his scolding on my use of Armour and then with his sales pitch on Synthroid. I couldn't run faster out of his office, never to return... Oh, not before informing him that the Endro. that prescribed Armour to me 17 years ago was a Endro. that he had trained under him 19 years ago. I look great, I feel great, I am great! My TSH 3 and 4 are perfect...Do what your body tells you to and if you haven't started using 50% homeopathic and believe only 50% of what conventional doctors tell you get on the road now!
50 and FABULOUS!!!

Wednesday, June 04, 2008, 7:18 PM

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Just started Armour

Wow what a difference!!! I had been taking synthroif for about 10-15 years - I had brain fog, lost a lot of hair and could not lose weight easily.

I have been on Armour for about 2 months now, frain fog has lifted, hair has quit falling out, weight lose is easier and I have so much more energy.


Thursday, June 05, 2008, 11:03 AM

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So far so good

I went from synthroid 100mg to 90 mg Armour- just had blood test, thyroid is perfect. I feel so much better on Armour.

Friday, June 06, 2008, 1:22 AM

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I took armour thyroid for three years and it was great. I haven't lost all thyroid function and so I went off it when I lost my insurance. I'm more tired but basically OK. Most importantly, I know someone who goes to a doctor in Boston who gives synthetic hormones but prepares a customized T4/T3 balance per client. The reason people still take armour thyroid is because there is naturally T3 in it. Synthroid is only T4. It may be hard for some people to convert T4 into T3. That's why many people don't do well on Synthroid. So look for a specialist or maybe research into "bioidentical hormone replacement" Good Luck Everyone!

Saturday, June 07, 2008, 12:20 AM

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weight loss and armor thyroid-sore throat

Hello out there,
I have Lupus- have been ill since I was 19 (38 now..)- so am a little worn from what the "system" requires for managing these issues. Have been on armor thyroid for 4 years, and recently decided to put some faith in my body's ability to heal met with an endocrinologist to wean off the meds, and have been off now for 5 weeks. Energy is good, but I am noticing that I look and feel 'soft and squooshy" all over! I don't seem to be gaining weight, but muscle tone is definitely different. old sore throat is back,
I started drinking some really soothing "biodynamic" teas ("Leelanau LIcorice"- a friend gave me from LIght of Day Organics-) to help recolonize my gut, rebuild my immune system, and to soothe my chronic sore throat since I've been off the meds the past month or so. The Teas really, really help, and I am feeling better and motivated to get exercising again. So far so good. I really suggest this one to anyone with that sore throat or troubles sleeping.

Saturday, June 07, 2008, 2:03 AM

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Armour Thyroid

I just saw a new doctor (M.D. - board certified internal medicine) who practices "integrative" medicine and he is the first doctor who actually listened to me and is really trying to help me find out what is causing the pain in the muscles and soft tissues of my feet, ankles, hands, and wrists along with a lot of other hypothyroid symptoms, especially fatigue, despite previous TSH lab test results (with other doctors) that were not terribly high, but higher than 3.0 and 5.0. (I know the TSH is not always that meaningful.) He prescribed Armour. I have not begun it yet, but am very encouraged and reassured by all of the posts here - thank you for sharing. Question: Have any of you experienced muscle pain in your hands, feet, or knees that is related to hypothyroidism? I have been researching and finding more information about a connection here. Thanks.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 10:13 PM

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Armour Thyroid

Can anyone tell me where to get Armour. The pharmacies i tried say they discontinued and that the manufacturer in not making the generic brand anymore. The real brand costs about $18 for a 1 month supply.

Friday, June 13, 2008, 8:34 PM

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I switched from Synthroid to Armour more than 2 years ago because my hair was falling out in huge clumps. My hair stopped falling out. I'm very happy with Armour. It's worth the extra effort as far as I'm concerned.

Saturday, June 14, 2008, 1:43 AM

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Where to Find Armour

I was able to have my prescription for Armour filled at the hospital where I work. This is my very first use of thyroid medication and I am very grateful for a physician who believes in it and prescribes it.
Visit for more information on its availability and alternative natural dessicated thyroid options. It is a wonderful, informative, helpful site that I just discovered.


Saturday, June 14, 2008, 10:48 PM

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My wife has been diagnosed with a very severe thyroid problem. We have no health insurance. Is there anywhere to get this medication?


Sunday, June 15, 2008, 8:44 PM

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Finding Armour Thyroid

I just tried to refill my prescrption and the pharmacy told me that the 1 and 2 grain tablets were on backorder with no data available when they might ship. only .5 and .25 grain tabs are available. This is New Mexico. What have others found?

Like most of the other posts on this subject, I find Armour far superiod to levothyroxine.

Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:55 AM

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Synthroid to Armour

have been on Synthroid off and on for 16 years. Every time I would take it I would feel like I had the flu. I drug myself though my days at work. I would come home and crash on the couch. I have gained weight and not been able to loose it. I took myself off again with several of my friends throwing a fit, but I told them I LIVE IN MY BODY NOT YOU. I called my doctor's office and 1 doctor told me no they would not switch me to Armour. But when I went in to see my doctor in the office she said, if you feel you body is rejecting Synthroid then let's do what your body needs. So, here I go, sure hope it goes well. Just know that Syntorid was not for my body. Don't let anyone tell you what is best for you, we all live in these bodies and know when something is making us not well.

Thursday, June 19, 2008, 6:24 AM

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Synthroid denied special approval status from FDA according to Mary Shoman

Just came across this site while researching switching from Synthroid to Armour (due to not feeling well--sluggish, weight gain that won't come back off, lack of energy, etc).

Anyway, the FDA denied Synthroid special approval status due to a history of subpotent product, inconsistency and poor stability.
If you are researching, be informed. Check the site:


Saturday, June 21, 2008, 11:37 PM

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See link regarding Armour shortage

Saw a few posts about having trouble getting Armour. See the link below for information from Forest Labs...looks like shortage is temporary...


Saturday, June 21, 2008, 11:51 PM

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Armour thyroid

I have taken Armour for three years and would NEVER go back to synthetic replacement. I found myself obcessing over food and I have two friends still taking synthetics that obcess over food. When I stopped taking synthroid I had a bad headache for five days and then it went away. I have felt much better on the Armour. Just to warn you though, don't stick your nose in the bottle of Armour, it does smell, but you can't taste it.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 11:20 AM

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I hate it so much I am working on a myspace page to tell my story. 16 years I took it off and on, each time feeling sick. I just kept on gaining weight, food cravings off the hook, felt like my brain was sleeping, dragging myself through each day, coming home with muscles yelling at me. Finally I said, I am not lazy, I am not crazy, I KNOW MY BODY. I started taking Armour just a few weeks ago and it's like someone flipped the switch on in my brain. I don't wake up needed sugar first thing to try and find energy, I just have it. I don't ache near as much as I use to and lost 5 pounds, while PMSing! So I hope to get the word out to others who might also have bodies who just reject Synthroid. I would not wish how I felt on anyone. Listen to your own bodies, you live in them, not your friends, family, or doctors. You have to do what is right for yourself, and trust me you will know by trying each one.

Thursday, July 03, 2008, 6:03 PM

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Frustrated and frazzled

Hi. I am 34 and have 4 kids. After my 4th I was a complete mess with all my symptoms indicating a thyroid problem. I had my blood work done when my baby was almost 1 and it said I was normal...but one number was 1 point away from abnormal. I asked to be put on Armour thyroid from my OBGYN and he did it without a problem. I felt amazing! I was so full of energy...I didnt need to nap anymore, my reflux got better, my hair stopped falling out, my depression totally went away., lost 15 pounds right away.... But after 1 year I started getting anxious. I just got off of it. In the meantime I had a new Practioner and I told her I was on Armour thyroid and she went nuts on me. She was saying how I should have never been on it and It was malpractice and just like speed. She said if she went on it...she would lose 15 pounds too. Well I was very upset. She didnt care to figure out why I was feeling like didnt matter to her. So just within the past month I have been feeling like crap and I went back to my has been 1 year since I have been on armour thyroid...and I got my levels checked. OMG they were normal. I was confused....why is my hair falling out? Why cant I lose weight? I am too tired to make dinner......and totally unmotivated. I had every symptom of low thyroid. My chiropractor told me about this Dr. they knows alot about thyroids....I went to him. I presented my symptoms and handed over my bloodwork and he said you have hypothyroidism. He said I dont care what that blood work have it. So he said he was testing my progestrone and adrenals....he said they all work together. When one thing is off they make the others off. I am waiting on my bloodwork. I am just so glad that I finally found someone that could help me. I love Arnour makes me feel so so so much better! If you want to email me you can at Thanks

Friday, July 04, 2008, 10:34 AM

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After extensive blood analysis, my doctor also prescribed Armour Thyroid AND estrogen/progesterone/testosterone. (Should probably note that I'm menopausal, and have been having serious enough fatigue and mental confusion for the past 2 years to interfere with my career. The general consensus seems to have been: "Hm, well you ARE 55 -- people slow down at your age" -- although one doctor said, "Hm, maybe it's neurological," and sent me to a neurologist who ordered MRI and EEG, which revealed no problems.) I started the Armour Thyroid 3 weeks ago and the hormone replacement 1 week ago. What's your experience been?

Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 5:59 AM

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To find a doctor, try ACAM!

The American College for Advancement in Medicine lists doctors who include alternative medicine in their armamentarium:

That's how I found the MD who prescribed Armour. He also asks me more questions, gives me time to answer, and explains things like I'm intelligent enough to understand.


Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 6:10 AM

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Consider ACAM

The American College for Advancement in Medicine lists MDs who also use alternative forms of treatment. I went to one near me, and he looked at all the tests I'd had done, ordered a few more, and basically took MANY more factors into account in diagnosing my situation. (One of them was hypothyroidism, which NO doctor had even mentioned.) I greatly appreciate his holistic approach, not to mention his taking so much time with me!


Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 6:24 AM

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Yes, T3!

My doctor also made a point of noting that T3 must be a component, and that not all thyroid meds include this. That's why he favors Armour.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 6:30 AM

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The American College for Advancement in Medicine lists MDs who also use alternative forms of treatment. I went to one near me, and he looked at all the tests I'd had done, ordered a few more, and basically took MANY more factors into account in diagnosing my situation. (One of them was hypothyroidism, which NO doctor had even mentioned.)

I greatly appreciate his holistic approach, not to mention his taking so much time with me! The body's processes are complex -- you need a doctor who takes many things into account rather than relying on the formularies, which, let's face it, are to some extent based on pharmaceutical marketing and HMO money-saving exigencies.


Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 6:41 AM

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Great Post!

You make many excellent points here. I wish everyone would read this post.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 6:43 AM

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Some Thoughts

The American College for Advancement in Medicine lists MDs who also use alternative forms of treatment. I went to one near me, and he looked at all the tests I'd had done, ordered a few more, and basically took MANY more factors into account in diagnosing my situation. (One of them was hypothyroidism, which NO doctor had even mentioned.)

I greatly appreciate his holistic approach, not to mention his taking so much time with me! The body's processes are complex -- you need a doctor who takes many things into account rather than relying on the formularies, which -- let's face it -- are to some extent based on pharmaceutical marketing and HMO money-saving exigencies.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 6:47 AM

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The American College for Advancement in Medicine lists MDs who also use alternative forms of treatment. I went to one near me, and he looked at all the tests I'd had done, ordered a few more, and basically took MANY more factors into account in diagnosing my situation. (One of them was hypothyroidism, which NO doctor had even mentioned.)

I greatly appreciate his holistic approach, not to mention his taking so much time with me! The body's processes are complex -- you need a doctor who takes many things into account rather than relying on the formularies, which -- let's face it -- are to some extent based on pharmaceutical marketing and HMO money-saving exigencies.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 6:58 AM

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Just a Thought

My doctor, who prescribed Armour, says that since it's made from pig thyroid, it can't be PATENTED by pharmaceutical corporations. Legally you can't patent natural substances because you didn't create them. So THERE'S A FINANCIAL MOTIVE TO STEER PATIENTS AWAY FROM NATURAL-OCCURRING MEDS.

I think the profit motive is always worth taking into account in American medicine. It IS a profit-based industry. My experiences living in Canada were very different from here. Take it for what it's worth.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 7:10 AM

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Armour Thyroid

I have been on Armour Thyroid for about 5 years, and recently have had a terrible time finding a Pharmacy that has them in stock. I have had to go to several to find anyone with them in stock. All tell me they are back ordered. Is anyone else having this problem?

Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 10:19 AM

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Speaking of the cost factor. I have found that if I don't use my insurance to pay for Armour it is cheaper then the 20 co-pay. So, if they don't put it on my insurance it costs me $10, if it goes through my insurance it costs $20. Greed! It is a killer.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008, 10:20 AM

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I take Armour and have for more than 2 years. I noticed a difference very quickly. The natural medication has both T3 and T4 in it, so there is no wait for your body to convert one to the other. The results from use is more natural. Family members I have take synthroid. They say it too is fine.

Usually, people do not switch back and forth between synthetic and natural. They are not taken the same way. I think the synthetic is more restrictive in the way it is taken. An example would be to take it one hour before eating in the morning.

My understanding from my pharmacy is that the drug is no longer available and I now need to switch. Has anyone else heard this?

Friday, July 11, 2008, 6:39 PM

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Armour = GREAT! Synthroid = NEVER AGAIN!

I was on Synthroid since I was 18 (9 years ago). Worked great for a year or two, then stopped. Then I was put on a LOWER dosage of Synthroid (doesn't make much sense now does it?) and my doctor added Cytomel (T3) at a very low dose. Needless to say, it was like I had no thyroid at all for my final year of college. Not fun! I went back to the higher dose of Synthroid and stopped the Cytomel. Worked great for about two years.

The past 3 years I have spent with "normal" labs...yet my friends that were my age were a lot more active than I was. I ate healthier than them and worked out a ton more. Yet, I gained 25 pounds and they stayed as skinny as ever. I finally was so tired of being told my labs were "normal" and yet feeling like I was full of lead and had the flu all the time, that I branched out and did research on my own. Finding out that what I was experiencing was actually common, provided me with so much relief...but really scared me! People should not feel like this! Think of how much energy you had as a teenager...that should not go away in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s!!! shouldn't! :)

I found a great doctor that both my mom and I went to. He could explain everything...the history of thyroid disease (when it was first discovered), the history of diagnostics for thyroid problems, what testing works/doesn't work...everything! He put me on Armour 4 days ago and I already notice a difference. I went from taking 88mcg of Synthroid, to taking 90mg of Armour for the first week, then 180mg of Armour after that. I have found that Armour is cheaper than Synthroid at about $14.

For anyone in the DFW area suffering and looking for a great doctor, I highly recommend Dr. John Launius in Lewisville. His office doesn't take any insurance (to keep costs down), but they code everything for you to turn into your insurance company. And they will help you fight the insurance company if needed.

For those not in DFW, here is a great list of thyroid doctors. They have reviews up for you to look at and do your own research on:

This site has been linked several times above, but I will link it again as it is a great site!

Monday, July 14, 2008, 3:43 PM

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Don't listen to your pharmacist about Armour not being available -- they are just reformulating the higher grains--you should still be able to get the 30, 60 and 90 mcg sizes. Check Mary Shoman's site on the about: thyroid site -- she has talked directly with Forest Labs the manufacturer--and the higher doses should be available by late summer.

I would not even consider switching back! It is great that your family members are fine on Synthroid--maybe they don't have a problem converting; however, you might want them to do a little research as I have read that prolonged treatment of T4 only can create other issues in your body.

Monday, July 14, 2008, 4:15 PM

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Frustrated and frazzled

Sounds like you are back on the right track. There is alot of really great information on that helps you understand how all of this works together. As far as your feeling anxious with Armour--it could have been caused from other issues rather than the Armour--perhaps adrenal fatigue. This is very common and if you have it, then you will need cortisol treatment for this, before you can get optimized with your thyroid medication. Again, you can find this information at the site I referenced above.

Good luck.

Monday, July 14, 2008, 4:20 PM

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I was just at the pharmacy picking up my refill and they said that the FDA was pulling Armour?!?!

Monday, July 14, 2008, 4:56 PM

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yes!!!!!! I switched from Synthroid to Armour

I can not tell the diffrence!!!! I stoped my hair from folling,I feel better,everything in my body feels better.I have lost 3 plus years, investigating going from one doctor to another,insisting finaly on the switch.And thank GO. So yes Synthroid is a poisen.

Monday, July 14, 2008, 8:39 PM

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Armour will continue to be availble

I too heard the comment from a pharmacist that Amour thyroid was being discontinued (God forbid) and called the company who assured me that it was a temporary stocking problem. I hated Synthroid combined with Cytomel and asked for amour about 6 years ago. My energy returned, my hair stopped falling out, and I lost the excess pounds I'd gained on Synthroid. It's the one drug I've taken that does it what it's supposed to do without side effects (as well as ridiculous expense.) I'd recommend it without reservation.

Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 1:02 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I have been taking Armour Thyroid, a natural thyroid hormone, for several years now and find that I tolerate it well. I feel fine and have the added advantage that it is much cheaper. This medication, or one similar, should be the first choice of doctors and synthetic versions only as a final resort. I imagine that Doctors and Drug Companies find this not in their best interest; it is, however, in the patients best interest.

Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:27 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I took Synthyroid for 1 year and then switched to Armour Thyroid against my Dr's wishes. Three days after starting AT the fog I was in cleared up, my energy came back. I have been on AT for about 8 years. I have had several Dr's try to get me to switch, thier excuse is AT is obsolete, can't get a consistent dosage, can't get the right doasage. That is all just a line. AT comes in several dosages you may have to take more than one size pill, but it work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't let them bull you.

Sunday, July 20, 2008, 7:31 AM

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Armour Thyroid

I do not agree that you need to find a holistic doctor to prescribe Armour Thyroid. I was taking Synthroid for 6 years and read alot about natural thyroid medication; was leery about asking my M.D. about it, but when I di he had no problem whatsoever. In fact, he said alot of hid patients request Armour because it's more natural. I wanted to change because Armour has T3 and T4.

Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:52 PM

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Does anyone take Armour Thyroid Medication.

I've been taking it since Nov of '06. I was previously taking Levothyroxine then Synthroid (in 2005 when i was diagnosed) i felt better after a while but my hypo symptoms were always returning, in the end i was sick, also came down with anemia/low B12 and Rheumatoid arthritis as a result. I have Hashimoto's Disease, which is autoimmune thyroid disease, that is where your immune system (your body's own natural defenses, called antibodies) is attacking itself, or in other words your healthy tissue/organs/systems. In Hashimoto's Disease, your thyroid responds to the attack by overproducing thyroid hormones one time, and then underproducing, in other words in self -defense. This is why your thyroid labs will read you as being hyper one time then hypo another, your labs swing back and forth until your thyroid is no longer functioning, hence hypothyroidism.
Armour was the first thyroid medicine ever created, back in the 1800's. It is made from dried pig's thyroid glands. It contains all the hormones you thyroid would make on it's own: T1, T2, T3, T4, and calcitonin. There are also generic equivalents (thyrar, naturethyroid, etc) Synthroid (and it's generic equivalents Levothyroxine, levoxyl, etc) has just synthetic T4. In Hashimoto's you need all the hormones, not just T4, which is why more folks just plain do better on dessicated thyroid (which is Armour) A lot of folks, however, don't have a problem converting T4 (storage thyroid hormone) to T3 (active thyroid hormone) and therefore do quite well on the synthetics (which is Synthroid) I wasn't one of them.
My autoimmune antibodies started off being over 90 (when i was first diagnosed in 2005) in fact that's the test that diagnosed me initially, at the same time i had a normal TSH, normal T3 and T4. When i wason Synthroid my antibodies were 773, plus my cholesterol was rising. After 4 months of being on Armour my antibodies came down to being in the 600's and are now 148 (normal range is 0-2.0) My cholesterol also came down.
I am enjoying my life again thanks to Armour.

Sunday, July 20, 2008, 2:37 PM

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Armour Availability

Today I went to the pharmacy to pick up my Armour (60 mg) refill. I could only get 12 days worth! I was told there is a backorder due to a process change in the manufacturing of Armour. I don't want to go back to Synthroid. I have noticed a positive difference in using Armour after only 30 days!

As an interim, has anyone ever tried any of these natural synthroid products: Bio-throid (BioTech Pharmacal), Naturethroid (Western Research Labs)?

Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:12 AM

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Natural Synthroid? That sounds like an oxymoron. Synthroid is syntheitic, so it is not natural, unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying. I took synthroid for 5 years with no problem. when I was pregnant with 3rd child, I started to have symptoms of hyperthyroid, yet my tests came out that I was low on thyroid. They induced me and then kept raising my dose, because the blood test said I needed it it. The next 10 months were a nightmare. I lost 60 pounds, couldn't sleep at all. they finally put me in the hospital, because they thought I wasn't eating and wanted to observe me and do more tests. The endo came in and said my TSH was too high so I needed even MORE synthroid. They then sent in a shrink to find out why I wasn't eating. SURPRISE! I WAS EATING. I finally went to an allergist who immediately took me off of all thyroid meds. He said blood tests are not always 100% accurate and my body's symptoms were not matching up with the results of the test. After 3 days of being off those meds, I slept for the first time in months. After a couple of months he put me on Armour Thyroid, and slowly increased my dose. My blood tests starting to be accurate. I will NEVER take synthetic thyroid meds again. If they stop manufacturing Armour, I'm in trouble.

Monday, July 21, 2008, 2:02 AM

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I take Armour. I never took Synthroid but my poor mother was on it for years and it quit being effective for several years before she died. She was freezing all of the time, her skin was incredibly dry, etc.
I think the Armour is great. I purchase 100 at a time and only spend $18! The more you can purchase at a time, the cheaper it is overall. I don't think they are discontinuing Armour but, if the FDA has its way, they will discontinue anything and everything that some pharmaceutical company can't make a lot of money off of. The FDA and big pharma are one and the same. Fight for your rights to bioidentical hormones and supplements, including Armour.

Monday, July 21, 2008, 2:43 PM

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Armour thyroid

I took Levoxyl for years and my TSH looked great. I would diet and exercise but could not lose any weight. I started with a Dr. who believed more in natural medications and vitamins/minerals. She measured my T3 and T4 levels as well as TSH and found very low levels of T3 (the only form useable by the body). Levoxyl is ONLY T4; if the body doesn't covert it to T3, the med is useless. I started on Armour at a low dose and my Dr. kept monitoring it until I reached a level that stabilized my T3. I've lost 40 lbs in the past year with diet and exercise and feel great. Unfortunately this Dr. doesn't take insurance so I have been forced to seek another Dr. who has so far been willing to write the Rx for Armour but I don't think she really believes in it. I don't know why they are so reluctant...guess that's the power and influence of our pharmaceutical companies!

Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:21 PM

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I have been taking Armour for almost a month now, and I really haven't noticed a difference yet. HOWEVER, I also think that my fatigue is due to sleep apnea. My only symptom has been extreme fatigue, but my doctor did have my thyroid level checked, and it was slightly on the lower side. I was initially taking Synthroid, but that had no effect whatsoever, so he prescribed a very low dosage (30 mg) of Armour. I go back to see him Friday to have my thyroid level checked, but I'm also going to bring up the sleep apnea again.

Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:50 PM

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Armour thyroid

I have taken it all types of thyroid medication and taken armour for allmost a year prior to taking armour i was taking levoxal but my system stop responding to it. Take Armour has been the best for me but it is the hardest medication to get, Every time i need a refill i have problems getting the grain I need witch i take the 5gr witch i am told is the largest grain. hope this helps

Thursday, July 24, 2008, 1:12 PM

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Does anyone take Armour Thyroid Medication.

Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:16 AM

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Does anyone take Armour Thyroid Medication.


And seriously, your dr is a liar!

Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:59 AM

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Armour Thyroid No No

I forgot to mention that my above post with those links and my comment on that dr was meant for you.

Friday, July 25, 2008, 1:24 AM

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That is the truth, darling, the simple truth. I had 2 endos in the past and they were both Synthroid worshippers even though the drug was making me ill in the end. I am doing just super on Armour, on it for nearly 3 years now and will never regret it, ever!

Friday, July 25, 2008, 2:16 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I am a 56 yr. old female, with a left thyroid lobectomy. I had a benign adenomatoid growing on my left thyroid gland. My endocrinologist put me on 45 mg of Armour thyroid per day 2 months after the lobectomy. I asked him to give me Armour because I wanted to take something natural. It took about 6 months before I started to feel better. Now it's 1 1/2 yrs later & my new endocrinologist is telling me I am undercorrected for T4 & over corrected for T3. She wants to switch me to Levoxyl or Synthroid & Cytomel if necessary. I am panicked about this because I have felt so much better on the Armour. But she says she can't customize the levels of T4 & T3 to my needs with the Armour since it is a standard dosage in all pills. I guess my question is: Is there anyone out there who has had a similar experience? What alternatives do i have to stay on the Armour?


Monday, July 28, 2008, 4:53 PM

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armour thyroid

i am doing research on this now for my daughter .... the way i understand how this system works is : thyroid has T4 and T3 hormones ... Most people get the T4 which is mostly prescribed . however "armour" formula inludes T3 hormone with the T4 . The key as i see it is the T3 hormone is the one that actually does the job ... the body takes T4 and converts it to T3 ... but if the conversion is faulty or not happening then there is no improvement . what the literature says T3 is 3 or 4 times as effective . i believe that means that 4 T4 units converts to 1 T3 unit If THE CONVERSION TAKES PLACE... they also say most of the conversion errors of T4 to T3 happens in women ....
Anybody who knows the secrets please comment on my understanding of the way this system works ..... thank you all .

Thursday, July 31, 2008, 8:50 PM

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other options

I have had part of my thyroid removed and have used Synthroid. Im looking to switch due to problems. I have also found this helpful, This really helps the thyroid and may let some of you actually go off your meds. Good luck

Monday, August 04, 2008, 2:08 PM

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I just started armour 4 days ago at 30mg once a day. I felt an immediate difference the first 2 days and then started having the same symptoms I was having again..(tightness in head, dizziness, bran fog, fatigue). How long does it typically take to really start to tell a significant difference?? I am sooooo ready to kick this. Also, has anybody ever had speech irritablitiy as part of your symptoms?? Thanks in advance

Tuesday, August 05, 2008, 3:26 AM

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Does anyone take Armour Thyroid Medication?

30 mg per day is a very low dose. Your Dr. probably is starting low & will increase the dose gradually. My Dr. started me on 45 mg. daily. It took me a couple of weeks to feel any kind of difference, & several months before I felt better. Give it a chance, you may find you feel better in a while...


Thursday, August 07, 2008, 4:35 PM

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In the biz...

I was just doing a little poking around when I stumbled upon this thread. I work in a pharmacy, and while I've found most pharmacists to be a little blase or know-it-all when it comes to a question about medication (when you work with them, anyways) it's always better to ask them about medications when you want the information that all of you seem to be looking for. Not saying your doctors can't also give you great information and help you with it, but unfortunately, they don't take the same courses as pharmacists do, which means that the pharmacist has more effectual information about the medication, what's in it, how it works, ect. than your prescribing physician.

That may come off as a bit mean, I apologize. But working as we do with doctors... we find them to be a little... inept when prescribing things more often than not, actually. Also, your pharmacy can give you a print out of any medication you have questions on. It breaks things down from their intended use, to studies performed, side effect and what they're made of. I'll definately get a print out from my work and post it up here, but here's what I know:

Synthroid (a.k.a. Levothyroxine) and Levoxyl are as FDA approved and effective as Armour Thyroid. Anything you need a prescription for has to pass FDA standards (generics included, for anyone who might still be on the whole 'China' kick out there, but that's for another conversation entirely). I can't say if the levels in Armour Thyroid are as down to the decimal point as the two synthetic kinds are, but I would imagine so. Yes, it comes from a natural source, therefore levels are different, but take into account that they're still manufactured by humans in a factory with numerous people making sure that every thing is as it should be. My opinion is that they have to be the level dosage on the bottle, otherwise there would be serious consequences for a lot of people out there, because even a small miscalculation would add up over time and hurt the person using the drug overall.

Now, unfortunately, each kind of medication will effect every single person differently. As seen here. Some people have done well on the synthetic ones, some people have no. Some have had great results on the natural and some haven't. Be sure to know that your doctor is doing the best for you as they know how (although from what I'm hearing from a lot of what your doctors are saying... they seem to be talking a little out their rear ends, no offense. Armor hotdogs? Yeesh). Synthetic may be what they feel is a safer choice, something more stable in their minds, which may be true to a certain degree.

But it's all up to you and your personal decision. If you don't like how your doctor is handling your situation (because everyone's is different and unique in their own right), you have every right to get a second opinion, or find more information elsewhere. Don't feel obligated. I hear so many customers coming in every day talking about how bad such and such medication is making them feel, or how their doctor just keeps telling them things will improve.

Well, yes, the general problem may improve, but how you're feeling while that's getting fixed is important as well.

While I've never taken anything along these lines personally, I have been put on medications that have affected me in ways I did not like, but my doctor seemed to ignore what I was saying. It's alright to try something your doctor prescribes, but it's your decision in the end that will either keep you taking it, or trying something else. Some people take more time to help than others. What I'm saying is, please don't feel obligated to continue taking something that you know is making you feel either worse, or affecting you badly in new ways. Especially with medications like these.

Back on the actual topic (sorry). I have a lot of customers that enjoy answering our questions on things like this and the few on Armour Thyroid (it doesn't seem to be a very prescribed medication, this is true) feel it works great for them. Although it does seem like this was one of the second or third medications they had to try to find that it worked for them. The ones on synthetic say they work great for them (although I can't say if they've tried AT, personally). It's all a personal choice. Who knows? In a few years a brand new drug for thyroid problems may come onto the market and we'll be having the same conversation about it.

A while back, only a few years or so, they were going to take Synthroid off the market. Sometimes the brand name starts losing money is all. AT has been around for a long while, so it's been doing great for someone out there, y'know? And, like I said before, if the levels weren't where they should be, it would have been pulled by now.

There was a... Digitek, that one. Digitek was recalled very recently. Completely pulled from the shelves. The kind of recall where we actually had to call the patients and have them come in and return the drugs (some recalls are just because the company shuts down, not that the product is bad, therefore we don't need to inform the patients). Those levels were not just off, but extremely off. So, I'm fairly confident in saying that someone would have noticed this problem with AT a while ago and done something about it.

Please feel confident in your medications, and if you don't like the ones you're on and find an alternative you'd rather try, don't let a doctor shut you out because it's something they don't 'like' or 'prefer'. If it is out there on the market, and FDA approved (meaning you need a prescription for it) then it IS a safe alternative for you to try (allerigic reactions the exclusion, of course).

I'll be sure to get the medication reports on all of the thyroid medications to share them here. Sorry if I may have come off as a bit pretentious or preachy. I just feel a little helpless going up against what you've been hearing doctors say. Doctors seem to just have more clout than us techs and pharmacists.

Saturday, August 09, 2008, 1:08 AM

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I will NEVER go off Armour

I was doing a search on Armour because it is so hard to get right now and I came across this thread and thought I would add my own personal experience. I lost most of my Thyroid to a pre-cancerous tumor about 21 years ago. They put me on Synthroid, which I stayed on for 20 years. When I started Synthroid I was 5'10" and weighed 175 lbs. I slowly started gaining weight and suffered from depression on and off, even though I was also put on Prozac. In August of 2007 I weighed 288lbs. Over the years I had tried every thing to try to lose weight, 1200 calorie diets down to 600 calories a day, couldn't lose a pound. Tried low carbohydrates and low calories, tried High Blood Pressure diets and Diabetic diets, never lost a pound. I had my doctor add Cytomel (which is T3 to the Synthroid) about 3 years ago, still couldn't lose a pound with diets. Finally I had my doctor prescribe Armour. He was NOT a happy doctor about it, but did prescribe it. A month later I went back for a check-up and told him according to the paperwork I gave him, from the dosage of Synthroid I was on, he should raise my Armour up to 90. He said no way, read the paperwork, increased the dosage and 4 days later I got a certified letter from him that he was dropping me as a patient. I live in a rural area and it took me over a month to find a doctor who would see me and take Medicaid. My first visit with my new doctor was in October and I had lost 10 lbs., no diet, no nothing. This doctor told me that every patient she has, who is on Armour would never go back to synthetics. It is now August of 2008, I have lost 60 lbs. and I eat whatever I want whenever I want. Over Christmas I ate candy, fudge, cinnamon buns and 4 cheese cakes over 3 weeks all by myself, went to the doctor the first week in January and had still lost 6 lbs!!! As for depression, as the years went on, it got worse and worse, at one point they had me on 4 different antidepressants, since going on Armour I am only on Cymbalta, and that is because I have severe pain issues in my back that involves nerve pain and being in pain 24/7 can cause some depression, but I am not as depressed now, in pain all the time, as I was when I was on Synthroid. My mood is stable 95% of the time, where as when I was on Synthroid, I was on a roller coaster ride mood wise. In fact, after a very traumatic event, I had 2 serious suicide attempts while on Synthroid. Now, on Armour after another traumatic event and with the pain, I would describe my mood as being a little down now and again but no roller coaster ride and nothing so serious that I would ever even think about suicide again. I honestly believe that Armour has saved my life. I feel better about myself after losing 60 lbs and 2 sizes, I have been able to reduce my pain medications, my skin isn't as dry, my hair doesn't fall out like it used to, my brain works better, more like it was before I had thyroid problems and I am more optimistic about the future. I feel like I lost 20 years of my life to Synthroid and I will NEVER go back.

Saturday, August 09, 2008, 1:15 PM

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I took Synthroid for one year with no effect whatsoever and then a new doctor suggested Armour. After an increase in dose to 30mg (almost optimal) my fatigue is gone, the weight is coming off and my husband said welcome back. I no longer have constipation and really didn't know that I was constipated my entire life! I suffered from depression and major fatigue as well as weight gain. Find a good doctor who understands thyroid issues.

Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 9:56 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I was on Synthroid for 20 years because of Thyroid Cancer. During that time I was constipated all of the time. My joints where hurting all of the time, I was told that I had osteoarthritis. I was in a costant confused state, and gained weight like a roller coaster. I never felt good. I had osteoporosis, brown spots on the sides of my neck and face. It goes on and on. I found a book on Wilson's syndrome and read it front to back. I had almost every side effect in the book for my body not converting the T4 into T3. I went to my doctor and gave him the book to look at. he prescribed Armour for me. After 1 week I felt like a new person. All the pain gone, the brown spots disappeared after 3 weeks, my hair stopped falling out and is no longer dry. My skin looks great. My osteoporosis has not gotten any worse over that last several years since I have been on Armour. Gee what a coincidence. If you cannot find a doctor to prescribe Armour, find one that will it has been well worth it. Just remember that it is recommended to take the dose 2 times a day instead of one. just split the pill. I was just reading online that it is recommended to take it at night, or at least one half at night. and the other in the morning, it levels it out better and works better at nighttime when sleeping.

Thursday, August 21, 2008, 8:07 AM

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Armour Thyroid

I am currently on Synthroid and it is not working - I have only been on this since April 08. I decided to go to an internal medicine doctor and discussed taking Armour Thyroid and she is all for it and has been prescribing this for years - her concern is that I may not be able to get Armour Thyroid because they were looking to stop making this medication. I did call my pharmacy and they can no longer get Armour Thyroid all they can get is Synthroid and my body is rejecting that medication. Does anyone know if and where I can get Amrour Thyroid or if there are any other natural alternative medicines?

Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:40 AM

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Armour Thyroid Youn can order without a orescrition.

Saturday, August 23, 2008, 7:25 PM

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Rash with Thyroid

Has anyone had lower leg rashes with their Thyroid conditions? I have been fighting the rashes off and on for 12 years. The first time it happened I went for 5 years before any doctor diagnosed it as relating to Thyroid. Once they would get my Thyroid regulated the rash would go away. I have been fighting it again for over a year. All the doctors I saw kept telling me my Thyroid was fine. Well they only were doing the TSH test. A month ago I went to an Allergist/Immunologist. He said my T3 & T4 levels were very high. He has me on the Armour @ 180mg per day and said if the levels were not better in 30 days he will up the dosage again to get me regulated. I can not believe how much better I feel. And I have finally lost weight in just the 30 days I have been on the medicine. I just wish I had known about the Armour years ago. So far CVS has been able to fill my prescription.

Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:00 PM

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Armour Thyroid Availability

I've been on Armour Thyroid for over a year now and feel much better. I've had hypothyroidism since I was 13, I'm now almost 30. The only other drug that worked for me was Thyrolar, which was a combination of the T3 and T4 hormones that the body naturally manufactures. Forest Pharmaceuticals stopped manufacturing that drug a few years back, so I went on a combination of synthetic T4 and T3 from other manufacturers. They didn't work as well. I finally went to an Integrative Medicine Clinic and the doctor recommended Armour. It has worked well. Now I'm concerned, because my Walgreen's pharmacist says they can no longer get Armour, that the manufacturer has stopped making it. I can't find any information on they manufacturer's website or I just hope it isn't true.

Anyone else hearing this?

Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:12 PM

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Armour Thyroid and Hair Loss

I have been on Armour Thyroid since end of June. My hair was falling some but not as it is now. Seems as though it has gotten worse. Everyhting I have read on Armour thyroid does not indicate Hair loss in adults. However, it did state hair loss in children until meds have tappered off. Why do you think my hair is falling? Maybr They need to adjust my dosage. I started at 30mg and was still feeeling tired, not wanting to get out of bed. My doctor has increased to 60mg and I am still feeling as though someone as been beating me all night when I awake. Maybe if my meds increase the hair would stop falling. When did you notice a difference in your hair and nails growing? was I a month, two mos, three mos after taking Armour? Pleae help me. I cannot lose my hair. I am going get it cut really short tomorrow because it is thinning so bad.

Wednesday, September 03, 2008, 12:12 AM

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How to take Armour Thyroid

I have been on Synthroid for the past 5 years with NO success with improving my symptoms. My doctor just prescribed Armour Thyroid for myself at my request and I just picked up my prescription. After reading all the post on Armour Thyroid it seems that I should split my dosage in half and take half in AM and half in PM. My question would be do I take on empty stomach in AM and PM? Also, What time should I take it if I am taking in PM too? Thank you for any help as I greatly appreciate it.

Saturday, September 06, 2008, 9:54 AM

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armour thyroid

I can't seem to get my Armour filled, I have been on it for 28 years, always at night.
Now I need a refill and have been cold calling everywhere. This is my 3rd day without any. What do I do now? Yes I have hair lose also when my dose is low( if i miss days).

Tuesday, September 09, 2008, 1:29 PM

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armour thyroid

I just talked to my Dr. she said that it is impossible that I can't find it. So we set up an appointment, to test my blood. I'm not sure how not getting any pills needs a visit, just more money. My pills have gone up over 400% over what i bought them for in 1980.

Tuesday, September 09, 2008, 1:33 PM

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switching form synthroid to armour cant wait !!!!

Hi there,
I was taking synthroid and had terrible side effects it made my thyroid worse I could not get out of bed my face and eyes where swollen and puffy, I had chest pain headaches and was aching all over also vertigo and memory loss and I cant spell anymore not to mention very aggresive on the medication, the doctors said that my body was rejecting it but it took them a while to admit it, at first they kept upping my dose until I rang them one day and gave them a peice of my mind they where actually making my thyroid worse, so they changed my meds to taking T3 in its own, the depression lifted straight away along with the tiredness, i can not sleep at night and I am very emotional maybe from lack of sleep, I have no T4 in my system and now need it my TSH levels are 39 which is pretty bad, so hence the move to taking armour thyroid, I am very surprised that my professor is prescribing the drug because it is unlicensed here in Ireland. So I am waiting on my medication to come in from the states and as soon as try this natural product i will truly e-mail you back to let you and other viewers read my story, fingers crossed

Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:18 AM

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Armour is better but can't find it

I was on synthroid for 8 yrs and even with dosage changes my weight gain, hair loss, tiredness got worse. But the doc said your levels are fine. Then a yr ago the levels changed and went on armour. I'm a bit better but I am on 60 mg. I think I need a higher dose. For the past 3 months it's getting more difficult to find. Everyone is out completely of ALL doses. My doc said to go back on synthroid but that would be a nightmare. I hope I can find it again next week when I need it. The so called backlog has been months, what the heck is going on????????

Monday, September 29, 2008, 2:11 AM

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I was on synthroid (low dose .25 mm) for several years. I recently was put on Armour by my GYN. I have never felt better. I have energy and can think clearly. I have begun exercising and can actually sleep at night. I highly recommend it.


Wednesday, October 01, 2008, 1:11 AM

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I take Armour and have been for about 2 years. I feel great on it. I have been told I have Hashimoto's which is an autoimmune form of hypo. I also take iodine and 1000mg of D3 to help my thyroid. No more naps in the afternoon. Before I was diagnosed I would sleep 10-11 hours a day. Always cold too. Now I only sleep a normal 8 -9 hours and I'm not cold anymore.

Thursday, October 16, 2008, 2:39 PM

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This is not correct information you are telling people. The doses are in fact consistent and are tested constantly. This is what drs tell patients when they are trying to dissway them away from Armour. Anyone can go to to see for yourself.

Thursday, October 16, 2008, 2:41 PM

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don't let him put you back on Synthroid! You can always divide your doses...meaning take half in the am and the other in the afternoon.

Thursday, October 16, 2008, 2:44 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I would like to try some form of pig thyroid but it seems to be hard to get in New Zealand. Is there anyone out there who can help with this? How much do you start with? I have been on Thyroxine for years and was recently switched to Levathyroxine. Since then I have been experiencing headaches again, itchy skin and my weight is skyrocketting. Help.

Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:49 AM

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filling your prescription

If you have a prescription, you can get it from Canada. Check the internet. I just saw the site.

Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 6:41 PM

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Armour has worked for me

I have been on armour for about two years. Like most everyone else my endocrinologist put me on synthroid. To shorten the story, I was diagnosed with hyperthroidism four years ago, I was given the radioactive treatment, which killed my thyroid and put me into hypothyroidism. For two years I went through hell. I changed to three different endocrinologinst with all prescribing different levels of synthroid. With all dosages of synthtoid I had consistent problems, of bloating, weight gain, terrible fatigue (where I layed on the couch all day). Regardless of the dosage I always had these problems. The quality of my life was gone with synthroid. I began reading online about armour. So I ask my family doctor if he would prescribe it for me. He did and it was a life changer.It took a while to tweek the dosage to get it right but even after a couple of weeks on the wrong dosage of armour I felt better than I ever did on aynthroid. Now I have the dosage right and I feel like I always wanted to feel, normal.

The only question I have for others taking armour is when to take it. I have read different recommendations of taking it 1 hour prior to eating (which I do) or takinig it after a meal. Which works for you. I do take it twice a day.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:00 AM

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My Story

check out my thyroid story on my blog

Thanks to all of you who have posted and helped me have faith in this new treatment,


Thursday, October 30, 2008, 10:03 PM

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pharmacy that fills armour your doctor can order the medication and they will send it to you in the mail I just got mine and it was about 30.00 for 100 tablets. they are located in Madison wi and youngtown, AZ you can order it online after they get the first perscription from your doctor.

Thursday, October 30, 2008, 11:30 PM

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you can get armour compounding pharmacy fills armour thyroid

Thursday, October 30, 2008, 11:35 PM

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Craziest Armour story I have ever heard

The story on here about an Armour Thyroid hotdog fiasco/ turned medicine is just plain crazy and dangerous: You said Armour causes Osteoperosis. You said that Armour causes congestive heart failure. Apparently Synthroid causes a great big huge case of the dumb A's because your story is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. If it wasn't for Armour thyroid and a doctor smart enough to give it to me I would still be bedridden with fatigue that had persisted for over 3 years. Now after 6 months on Armour natural pig hormone I am finally able to stay awake all day, and work out at the gym -- plus I feel better than I have in years.
Someone's life could be changed by switching to Armour and you try to prevent that from happening by making up a ridiculous fake history of how Armour Thyroid came into being.
Shame on you. You should stick to telling us how you feel when you are on Armour ~only~ or on Synthroid~ only~ -- and you need to quit spouting off this other bunk.

Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:18 PM

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I live near Houston and haven't found a doctor willing to discuss AT. Who did you see?

Friday, November 14, 2008, 12:35 AM

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Question on Armour

I have had thyroid issues in the past and was placed on synthetic hormone (don't remember which) and eventually taken off by my dr. Years later I am feeling many of the same symptoms I had then that many of you have also described here. I learned about Armour when I was in the waiting room of my naturopath's office and when my md shared I may need to start on treatment again I asked for Armour. She was familar with it but kind of raised an eyebrow and shared that the dose isn't always consistent, but that was really her only negative. I pushed for natural and she said if the tests do prove I need treatment that she would prescribe Armour.

I did have a question that I did not already see addressed (unless I missed it). Since Armour is from a natural source (pigs), are there regulations around what the animals are being fed or injected with? I reviewed the Armour website and found they are grain-fed, however the question about growth hormones or who-knows-what could be injected is still unanswered. Does anyone have any further information? Also, is the thyroid treatment a result of the pigs being raised for food?

Thanks for your comments.

Saturday, November 29, 2008, 9:22 PM

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Armour Thyroid Medication

For a number of years I took Armour Thyroid med. I was switched to Synthroid then Lecoxal. After that they never seem to get the right amount. From the reading I have been doing it has to do with the T4 and T3. From what I read Armour has both T4 and T3. I would be very interested in what others feel.


Wednesday, December 03, 2008, 9:08 PM

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Thyroid Doctor Houston

Dr. Evan Matigwi, Dr. Mat
250 Blossom & Hwy 3
Webster, TX 77598

I have been taking sythroid and or levoxyl for 6 years, just this month started with Armour. He prescribed it.

Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 11:14 AM

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Armour Medication

I am a 48 yr old female that has been diagnosed with hypothyroidism since 1988. i was put on synthroid of course and that is all i knew about for years. What upset me the most was the fact that the side effects were never discussed and i knew nothing about it till i did research on my on. I found a Dr. that recommended Armour and was impressed with his knowlegde and the fact that he actually took the time to share it with me. I did alot of research on the medication and i have been on Armour for going on three years now. I will never go back to synthetic meds again. I have also learned about other supplements that are totally natural that also assist in keeping the body stable and have felt this good in years. I have also had a few of my friends who have started taking armour do to my recommendations and they love it. please talk with your Dr. and read anything you can on the subject to make sure it is right for you.

Thursday, January 01, 2009, 12:07 PM

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Friday, January 02, 2009, 5:47 PM

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snythroid versus amour

I am a 51 year old women who has beejn on synthroid (137mg) for about 4 years. I feel like an 80 year old my joints are stiff. It is very discouraging because my engery level sucks too! I have a terrible time losing weigt. I developed a rash on my hips, buttock and the middle of my back - it was so itchy. My Doctor prescribed predisone and the rach went away briefly, but comes back periodically. I am very interesting in switching to Amour. All of the comments have been very helpful. I thought I was losing my mind. I am calling my doctor at the beginning of the week to see if they will prescribe Amour and if not I am going to find one that will. Thanks again for all the helpful comments!

Saturday, January 03, 2009, 12:18 PM

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I switched from levothroid to armour in November. I was on levothroid 5 years. I found an ob/gyn that knows a lot about armour. He prescribed 3 grains per day and told me to take 2 in the am and 1 in the pm. I was pretty jittery in the mornings so after a little research I began experimenting and now take one as soon as I get up, another late morning and the third by middle afternoon. This works much better for me. Also, I take it sublingually (let it dissolve under my tongue). My doc also told me to take 1 Tablespoon Carlson's fish oil. The lemon flavored goes down a little better. That has made a big difference in my cognitive functioning. He also told me to try some coconut oil, 1 T in coffee or tea. It helps that my doc was hypo. He just gives me additional info that has worked for him.

Thursday, January 08, 2009, 11:45 AM

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I take Armour Thyroid, 210 mcg daily. I absolutely love it. I was on Sythroid and Levothroid for years and never felt any better. I had terrible depression, mood swings, unbelievably heavy periods, water retension, lethargy, chronic sinusitis. When I was switched to Armour by a naturopathic MD, I felt dramatically better within one week. Within a month, every symptom disapperaed. When that MD left the area, I went back to my regular endocrinologist who put me back on Synthroid and added Cytomel (T3). I felt like crap again, all the symptoms returned and the T3 gave me terrible acne. A year later I finally I insisted that they put me back on Armour, they did, and once again all the symptoms went away and I felt fantastic and have been on it ever since. I panic when pharmacists tell me it is "discontinued". It is not discontinued and there are no plans to discontinue it, thank god, because I couldn't imaging suffering like that again

Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:34 PM

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amor thyroid

My Husband had been taking Levoxyl and a compund drug cant remember the name for his thyroid condition. He had a goiter. He was fine on those meds until he switched over to Amor about 7 months ago. It has changed his personality. It has ruined our marriage. He lost tons of weight. He looks horrible. He left a month ago and I can not convince him to get to the doctor, I was told by a psychiatrist that this med can cause psychological problems. This is where my husband is at and I fear for his life. I would have this drug's side effects thoroughly explained because this med has caused my husband not to be himself.

Thursday, January 29, 2009, 2:44 PM

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great information

Thank you all for the great information regarding Armour. My mom told me about Armour and I did some research on it and you all have been the most helpful for me. I was diagnosed with Hypo 13 years ago and have been on synthroid since. Over the years my Drs have had a hard time finding the right dosage for me. I have tried taking different doses different days of the week and am currently taking two different doses everyday. The past few years I have had a huge problem loosing weight (which this has never been a problem with me before) it does not matter how much I exercise or what I eat my weight stays the same. I even joined a gym and going for two months five days a week there was no change in my weight or appearance. This past year I am freezing all the time - this is the first winter where I am ALWAYS in front of an space heater. This is hard because it makes it hard to get anything done becaue I just do not want to leave the heat. My skin is terribly dry - 10 years ago I had a Dr tell me that is just something that I need to live with because of my thyroid problem. I have been depressed the last 4 years, have been on three different kinds of anti depressents with no help and have decided not to take anymore anti depressents. I am just tired all the time but it is not the tired where I need to actually sleep, it is more like I just do not want to do anything and will just take many cat naps and not want to get up off the couch. The last six months I have noticed that my joints are very sore (especially my left elbow) and my feel hurt all the time - I contributed this with my weight.

I have made an appt. with my Dr and am seeing her on Monday morning with hopes that Armour will help me, I want my life back and you all have given me the hope that I needed.

Thank you all for the great information.

Friday, February 06, 2009, 10:31 AM

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Armour thyroid and hormone balancing

It is heartbreaking to hear from so many people who are suffering physically and emotionally, because they can't get the help they need from their doctors. My doctor treats me holistically with Armour thyroid, bioidentical hormones and supplements. I am almost 70 years old but look 50 and feel 25! I am very active, have tons of energy and lost the excess weight I gained after menopause. My total cholesterol dropped 110 pts. These changes only took six months to occur since I found the aforementioned doctor. She recommended a book to me that is truly revolutionary - "The Hormone Solution - Stay Younger Longer" by Dr. Thierry Hertoghe. It will tell you everything you need to know and even has questionnaires so you can determine where your deficiencies are. There is lots of thyroid information in this book, too. It's available in paperback; you can even order it at Good luck!

Friday, February 06, 2009, 6:20 PM

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Looking for some hope.

I was diagnosed with hypothyroid a little less than a year ago...I went through all the feelings...relief at finally having answers as to why I was weak, tired and not losing weight after working out over an hour six days a week. I finally had answers to why I wasn't myself. I was put on Levothyroxine and finally got settled at 112 mcg. I felt better, had my old energy back, painted the whole house etc. I stopped snoring and felt great. For the last two to three months all that has changed. My symptoms are all coming back...tired, forgetful, muscle ache, lack of ability to do basic things like cook dinner for my kids, and such severe foot pain that at times I can not walk without a walking stick. I'm 4'10" and have gained ten pounds in the last month alone, with exercise, which puts me at 164 lbs. My doc told me there was no reason to do blood tests, my TSH scores looked fine and "surely I could lose at least ten lbs." I was flabbergasted and sent into depression and felt like I'd been given a death sentence as she stated I would never lose more than twenty's just the way my body was! I'm 4'10" for goodness sakes. Any doctor should be worried about me at my weight. Needless to say, I'll be requesting a new doc at the beginning of the month, and also asked for a referral to and endocrinologist which is scheduled for next month. I called their office today and they informed me their docs don't prescribe Armour...which makes me even more anxious and frustrated that I'll never get the problem fixed. I live in Alb. NM. Can any of you recommend a doc that does prescribe Armour in the area? Also, have any of you experienced severe plantar fascitis with your thyroid problems? Right now I'm in serious research mode and have spent hours online looking at anything and everything and I feel like I'm in serious overload, but refuse to accept that for the rest of my life I will be unhealthy and short (not a pun) and moody with my kiddos. I just want my life and my confidence back.
By the way....thanks to everyone here for your's nice to know I'm not crazy like a lot of people think...and that I'm not alone. Especially thanks to those of you sharing your success's the only thing moving me along right now.

Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 1:03 AM

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Here is a link for locating a doctor who may prescribe Armour.

Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 9:58 PM

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Armour Thyroid

Search for stop the thyroid madness website. I stopped Levoxyl one day and started Armour the next. I'm currently up to 4 grains of Armour and feeling so much better. Makes sense to give the body what it needs rather than a man made medicine. You can also do a search for Armour Thyroid and read up on it.

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is gone, cholesterol is back down, Fibromaylgia symptoms are gone, I sleep at night and the list goes on. Blood tests may "look" normal on synthetic hormones but our lives don't tell us that.


Thursday, February 12, 2009, 11:43 AM

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Armour Thyroid

I was on Armour Thyroid meds for over 10 years. Armour supports the T3 and T4, whereas Synthyroid and Levoxal (both synthetic) only supports one or the other of the Ts. Armour is natural thyroid. Armour thyroid is no longer available in Calif. so I'm now on Nature-Tyroid/Westhroid, again natural thyroid.

If a woman is pre-menopausal a low thyroid could show up, but that can usually be reversed by using natural progesterone.


Monday, March 02, 2009, 10:58 AM

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Testing For Low Thyroid

Make sure your doctor checks not only the tsh but the freeT3 and the freeT4 or they'll miss the diagnosis every time. Trust me, been there done that : (

You my dear might also want to consider supplementing with natural progesterone. Symptoms of progesterone deficiency can also mimic low thyroid. Curious, how old are you? The average for pre-menopause to start today is 35 years old, and getting younger.


Monday, March 02, 2009, 11:05 AM

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I used to take Armour and switched to Synthroid on the advice of my endocrinologist. She says that Armour, being dessicated pig thyroid, is the perfect blend of hormones for pig bodies. For human bodies, Synthroid is chemically identical to the T4 created by your own thyroid, so it works better and more reliably. The Armour has a blend of T3, T4 and other hormones and is therefore harder to regulate and determine how you are reacting to it. In your body and with a relatively healthy system, T4 makes T3, so there is no need to supplement with T3 unless there are extenuating circumstances. I have read counter arguments to this so I know it's contentious. The other issue with Armour is that it is a natural glandular product and as such is harder to insure that it comes from clean, reliable sources. It's not exactly made from happy, organic pigs. Anyway, that's my humble opinion, hope it helps

Tuesday, March 03, 2009, 3:49 PM

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I had been on Armour for seven years before my new MD switched me to Synthroid.

After four months i will be going back to Armour on Wednesday. I can't wait.

Below is what the New England Journal of Medicine has found:

NEJM Study Proves Armour Thyroid Better Than Synthroid

Patients with hypothyroidism show greater improvements in mood and brain function if they receive treatment Armour thyroid rather than Synthroid (thyroxiine). Hypothyroidism, where the gland has ceased to function or been removed, is usually treated with daily doses of Synthroid. But the researchers found that substituting Armour thyroid led to improvements in mood and in neuropsychological functioning.

Not all tissues that need thyroid hormone are equally able to convert thyroxine to triiodothyronine, the active form of the hormone. But most patients with hypothyroidism (reduced thyroid function) are treated only with thyroxine. On 6 of 17 measures of mood and cognition -- a catchall term that refers to language, learning and memory -- the patients scored better after receiving Armour thyroid than after receiving Synthroid. No score was better after Synthroid than after combination treatment. The authors also detected biochemical evidence that thyroid hormone action was greater after treatment with Armour thyroid. The patients who were on Armour thyroid had significantly higher serum concentrations of sex hormone-binding globulin

The New England Journal of Medicine 1999;340:424-429, 469-470.

COMMENT: Extracts of animal thyroid tissue, first used in 1892, contained both thyroxine and triiodothyronine (Armour thyroid) and were the only available treatment for hypothyroidism for some 50 years. Because of concern about their variable potency, these extracts have been considered obsolete for some time by all but a few natural prescribers. This is a MAJOR article. I did not realize that natural therapies would penetrate this far this quickly. I am very surprised that this was published in NEJM. If one reads the editorial, you will find that it recommends that patient NOT switch from Synthroid to Armour thyroid because more research needs to be done and "the majority of patients taking Synthroid "have no complaints about their medication." If your doctor or endocrinologist refuses to give you Armour thyroid instead of Synthroid, you can use this article to show him that it is indeed better. Synthroid (thryoxine) is RARELY ever the best choice for hypothyroid patients.

Monday, March 09, 2009, 8:04 PM

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Armour Thyroid VS the other stuff

In 2000 I had to have 1/2 of my thyroid removed - for the next 18 months I was sick. I could not do any thing but watch TV and sleep. A dr gave me Synthroid It did not help. I research my problem on the internet and discovered Armour Thyroid. Then I had to find Dr Hotze that would proscribe it to me. I now am better than I have been in years. I have been on Armour for 7 yrs. I will never be on any thing.

Monday, March 09, 2009, 11:27 PM

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Armour thyroid

Armour thyroid is a medication made from the dried thyroid of pigs, this medication has been around far longer than synthetic thyroid medications. Synthetic is the operative word here, these medicines are not natural, they are a man made product with all the flaws of man made medicines. These synthetic thyroid medicines have been recalled many times because of potency problems.
Armour thyroid is made to the high standards of the American FDA and is a product made with all the technology and knowledge of an advanced country, so why do doctors make it sound like it's made in some back alley? lt is a highly rated medication by the many patients world wide who can't tolerate synthetics.
Why doctors trot out the same false mantra of Armour thyroid having potency problems is perhaps more to do with the high profits and false propaganda of the big pharma companies than their own knowledge or experience.
Ask your doctor for references of these spurious claims next time they parrot them.

Saturday, March 14, 2009, 5:17 PM

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New Beginning ?

I had radio iodine treatment 14 years ago. Was then told I was 'normal ' now. Within 2 month had gone from 126 lb to 147 lb. Over the years I have struggled with all the horrible symptoms. Have developed lots of allergies and was diagnosed with collitis 4 years ago. Have gained and lost weight so many times but have no energy to fight it now. Was only given treatment ( levothyroxine ) 2 years ago when my consultant for the collitis told me they could be connected?
Have found no benifit from this and have been reaserching for a few years. Tried all sorts of sups. etc....spent a fortune, then gave up again.

My weight has ballooned to 180 lb. I feel like an ailien in my own body. Cant do anything i used to. Can get no help from the Doc. or any one else in this country. (UK)
I came accross this thread and have read from start to finish,followed all the links and took in as much information as i can. I am now fighting back again!!

Was unable to get Armour, as no prescription and not avail elsewhere. Have just got 'Thiroyd' from 'Greater Pharmaceuticals' in Thailand. (They have assured me it is just as effective.) I started yesterday.
Have also ordered DHEA and B12 as i have long suspected i have an adrenal problem. Whenever i am put on steroids for my collitis i become a different person within 1 dose !!! Have spoken to the doc about this but he said everyone is like this. I cant explain how different i am after just 1 dose...i can and have achieved so much when i have been on them.
Here's hoping this medication can kick start me on the road to recovery.
Will keep you posted, just in case this information is of any use!
Thanks to all the people who have posted, your info has helped me :)

Thursday, March 26, 2009, 8:13 AM

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Just starting Armour

I took my prescription to the pharmacy yesterday and there was no problem getting it filled - not sure why some have problems. I'm excited to try it. Have not been on any previous medication, am tired all the time, can't lose weight or I should say I can lost but can't keep it off and I seem to be gaining about 10 lbs a year for the last 5 years and now I'm concerned for my health as my weight is over 250 and I'm 5'9''. I'm also getting my hormones balanced and I think because of my age (47) getting my thyroid and my other hormones balanced will give me my life back. I just want to have the desire to go for walks again and to care about my easting habits, right now I'm just too tired to care or follow through with anything - I'm excited to start my Armour today!

Friday, March 27, 2009, 11:13 AM

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Armour vs. synthroid

I'm new to the whole thyroid issue even though I knew it years ago. I have recently been diagnosed with Hashimoto's and my doctor prescribed Synthroid which I started a month ago. I have also started exercising and eating "whole foods". At first, I noticed a weight loss but now I'm noticing swelling which I have never had to deal with and I can't seem to lose weight at all. Also, ny hair seems thinner. I called my doctor to inquire about Armour after reading all of the informative info on this site but he says since my T-3 is very normal, Armour would NOT be the way to go. Has anyone else had this problem? I would greatly appreciate any input and would consider changing doctors. Thanks!


Friday, April 10, 2009, 1:37 PM

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I took armour

I took armour originally and everything was pretty good for a while. Then I continued to go hypothyroid and my DO couldn't get it controlled. I got switched to Synthroid and every dr. I see feels that is what I should be on/ most people. I still don't feel any better, but my endo. is planning to add a second med. to balance T3 and T4. Hopefully that will increase energy....and decrease weight=)

Friday, April 10, 2009, 5:58 PM

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I recently started taking Armour about 5 mos ago, had previously been on Synthroid/Levo for 10 years with very little help. Had been to an endo when first diagnosed, but then only had my TSH tested each year by my Gyno...also said the levels were mid-range and fine. Finally heard about Armour from family friend, went to a holistic doc and am actually starting to feel improvement in my brain fog, energy and joy...hoping that weight loss will come! The puffiness and fluid retention went away within the first month after Armour and I'm starting to have an increase in energy. Was so tired all the time, my Gyno actually had me tested for sleep apnea...didn't have it. When I told my gyno that I wanted a referral to the holistic doc, she offered to up my dose of Levo, even though she said my levels were fine,just so she wouldn't ose me! She finally caved and gave me the referral. Went to the holistic doc and she actually listened and tested everything. Found out that my T3 level was so low...after all, Levo is only T4 and my bod didn't produce the T3. Got an appt in a month to check it again, feeling better an advocate for yourself and push until your doc listens and you feel better, or go find a doc who will.

Monday, April 13, 2009, 2:19 AM

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I posted here some weeks ago (new beginning?) Had just started on Armour th next day.

I can honestly say i feel totally different. Am still not regulated but i know i am on the way!

Sleeping at night, not eating so much, more active and hair not falling out as much. I just hope i can get some weight loss now as i am very swollen, especially around the face and neck.

Fingers crossed.

Monday, April 13, 2009, 4:41 AM

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Armour Side Effects?

I have taken Armour for about 10 months now...the first 3 month were great then boom like an implosion became tired and started gaining weight??! Dose had gradually built and tests determined final dosing...anyone here ever had this boomerang effect where the armour appeared to work than a sudden reversal of fortune? Plus irritability increased (actually developed as I had never been...)

Monday, April 20, 2009, 5:30 PM

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Armour and feeling tired

I have been on Armour for 4 weeks and I am so tired I can hardly stand it
I am not feeling any better and at this point think I am on the wrong med
Did anyone else have these problems at the beginning? how long does it take to get into your system? any advise would be great

Thursday, April 23, 2009, 4:43 PM

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Tired on Armour

I was an Armour for over two years, I was constantly tired. When I told my PCP she upped the dosage. About six months after she did that I was hospitalized because of chest pain and rapid heart rate. They found that I was being over medicated with the Armour, I was told that I should have been taken off when I couldn't shake being tired all the time. I'm now on Synthroid and never felt better!

Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:47 PM

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Armour exhaustion

I wrote the post re: side effects...When I first started armour it was amazing...and acted fairly quickly once dose got balanced (about 2 months for me) The first 3 1/2 months were amazing never felt better...then suddenly it was as if I had lead flowing in my veins I could barely move...I was exhausted like I have never been doctor upped the armour to no avail except tests came back that I had to reduce it...but after 10 months I had to come off it...I am not sure how I was before I took armour (i know those 3 months were a gift) but I couldnt be as exhausted as I was on armour...I have no idea why armour affected me this way, as I am not a doctor I wont guess...but all I can say are the facts armour didnt work for me and it had very opposite results...I was glad to see others have had this effect too...Re: the two posts if you are tired on Armour and can "hardly stand it" that is not need to see the doctor for regulation of dose or a new Rx...and to the other poster 2 years??? somehow I think doctors expect all meds to act the same for all...I could barely handle the 6 month boomerang that knocked me out till I stopped it...going to see a new endo next week recommended to me by my internist for new insight...please anyone: if you have had side effects from armour please post and if you left armour for synthroid please tell us how they were different and how your doing...I wanted to stay with a natural source but armour was not the answer for me...thank to all

Friday, April 24, 2009, 12:12 AM

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Synthroid/Levoxyl VS Armour

I had my thyroid radiated so I no longer have one. I will need to tale a replacement ormone for the rest of my life. My Endo. has offered me the different tyoes of meds that are out there and we started with the Synthroid and then Levoxyl. My problem was that I was always dragging and tired. I had spoken to him about it several times and finally decided to give it a try. It has only been a few days but I can already feel the difference. My family has also notices a difference in me. I hope that I don't revert back to the lagging feeling after a few months because I am on cloud nine. I feel like I can live my life and not feel like I need a nap every afternoon. My only concern is that he stated that If/wen I get pregnant I need to come off it right away. I don't see anything so far about adverse effects to a fetus during pregnancy. Any thoughts from you guys would be great. Good luck to you all.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:14 AM

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Armour Side Effects

I recently started Armour - I am a firm believer that natural, T-4/T-3 is the best way to go. I know a woman who has been on Synthroid for YEARS & has remained significantly overweight, despite running, etc. My mother was put on Synthroid once ~9 years ago & went absolutely bananas.

Unfortunately, I have had what my doctor believes is an allergic reaction to Armour (it aggravated my previous off & on neck swelling & gave me noticeable abdominal swelling), so she took me off of it. I need a thyroid ultrasound to address the neck pain/swelling, but I'd like to try Nature-throid. I'm very worried about ending up on Synthroid/Cytomel. But I need something. My hands are already ice-cold.

For those who've had an allergic reaction to Armour, what did you end up taking?

Monday, May 04, 2009, 5:58 PM

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Armour problems

Hi there
To the pp that had to come off Armour........did you try supporting your adrenals? this problem i have heard about on quite a few sites.

Check out STTM (stop the thyroid madness) It has lots of information and further links that will help with your problems.

Good Luck

Tuesday, May 05, 2009, 2:27 PM

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Armour Thyroid

Yes we are out here and smarter than you are... you are using a prouct that was condemed by the medical profession when it came out and then punished by the AMA when they stopped prescribing Synthroid and its generics.l.l..l do some research on the whats and hows of how Synthoid got to be so popular.. and just to give you and idea of how it effects me... my hair which is normal when I start taking synthroid falls out in a very sort time... starting in the front and then just general, my skin is so dry I have to use lotion to shower and again several times a day... and this is not to mention the aches and pains that are constant... so constant they check me for every disease you can name not to mention I am so tired I have to sit down during a simple thing like doing dishes....
So yesssssss we are out here and discussed with ignorant people like you who think you know it alllll

Sunday, June 07, 2009, 5:50 PM

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Armour great.....but now hard to find

I was on synthroid for about three years. I hated it! I was always feeling tired and crabby and my hair was falling out like crazy. I then went on the internet to try and research to see if anyone else had the same problem with this medicatuin like I had. I found that a lot of people were talking about this medication. Armour Throid and that it was an all natural medication. Well I am theI tyype that dont think all natural stuff works. The more unnatural the meds the I thought. I thought I had nothing to loose and after telling my doctor (who is a family doctor not my endro) he said sure why not give it a try. I have been on this medication for the last month and I feel great. I love it! I am not going to try and be an advocatre for or against it but this is my thought for anyone who feels that the Synthroid isnt working for you....why not give it a trry? What do you have to lose? You already feel bad so it cant get any worst ...right? That's how I figured. Anyway, now this is the problem, at least here in Illinois. I just found out that the manufacturer of Armour is behind in making the medication and im having a hard time finding it right now. I gues there has been a big demand for it lately that the manufacturer didn't expect and now there isn't a suppy of it. So, if anyone knows where I can get it, please let me know. I'm not sure I trust the online thing but I may have no choice.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 3:44 PM

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Doctors who will prescribe Armour

Find a doctor that believes in Intergrative medicine, or leans twards natural healing. I went to an Endo that refused to give it to me, and said I still felt like crap and tired because it was in my head! I went back to my G.P. to give it to me, or I would go find someone who would prescribe it. So, she did, but said that there were "risks" Okay, it's been around longer then Synthyroid and is FDA approved as well.
Many docs do prescribe it, you just Call around and ask.
I switched from Synthroid to Armour and I felt better after a few days. No more heart papulations. I've only been Armour for 2 weeks so far, so I hope I will get back to my old self again someday.
Good Luck

Friday, July 24, 2009, 4:35 AM

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Armour & Tired.

I felt more tired on Synthroid then Armour. Maybe you need a higher dose? Are you going to an Endo or a G.P.? The Lab levels changed in 2003 to 3.0 on the high end. Most Labs in G.P. offices still go by the old labs of 4.5 on the high end. Make sure you get your TSH levels everytime you get tested.
I've only been on Armour for 2 weeks and I can feel a difference, but I'm still tired, but not as tired as Synthroid. I hope after the 6 week period I will feel even better.

Friday, July 24, 2009, 4:43 AM

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Armour, Yes Yes

Natural is ALWAYS better. Synthroid did nothing for me, but gave me side effects of heart paps and I was too tired to live! I didn't feel myself.
Armour has been around much longer and is FDA approved long before the drug companies marketed this synthetic drug. Many docs are brainwashed in med schools to believe what the drug companies tell them.

Friday, July 24, 2009, 4:49 AM

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Doing research on thyroid treatment

Doctors hate it when patients do their research. When I was dianosed w/ Hashimotos, I told the doctor that I'm going to research on this condition, and she got frustrated with me , and told me that it wasn't important to research. . I changed doctors, and did my research, but I try not to affend their large egos with the information I've learned about Hypo.
The key is to find the right doctor that listens and understands. Women doctors tend to be more flexable, but not always.

Friday, July 24, 2009, 4:56 AM

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Don't wait to take the Armour

I had to convince my doctor, and I felt better right away. She tried to tell me that it has "risks" B.S. it's been around since 1890 and FDA approved! I had side effects on Synthroid.
Take Armour for the 6 weeks, then get your levels tested, also see how you feel. Unless your doc is accepting of Intergrated/Natural medicine, he/she will tell you not to take it. The drug companies have brain washed the doctors to put us on all of these drugs, like anti-depressants, that we don't need!
Oprah's doctor Oz, even says Armour, in general, makes people feel better then Synthroid. Also, never take generic Synthroid, because it's not consistant. Good Luck!

Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:10 AM

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They only manufacture Armour certain time of the year

Since they don't make Armour year round, there can be a shortage for certain doses at certain times of the year.
You can try another natural thyroid meds that are out there that don't have shortages.

Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:14 AM

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Armour is only on shortage certain times of the year

I read that they only manufacture Armour certain times of the year. Is Nature-thyroid FDA approved? I wanted to know, because if it's not, then I will have to go to another doc to get it prescribed.
I have no problem finding Armour in Colorado, but CA is into more natural medicine, so it might be more popular there, so more of a demand.
I just started Armour after convincing my Doc. I hope to get better result then synthoid.

Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:20 AM

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Can I take thyroid supplements while on Armour?

I wanted to know if I can take supplements that help my thyroid which being on thyroid meds, or will that make me Hyperthyroid?
For example L-tyrosine is supposed to help the thyroid.
I can't ask my doctor because she is a general prac, and she doesn't know much about thyroid issues. I think I know more then she does. I can't afford an Endo, since I can't afford health insurance right now.
Does anyone have any experience w/ this subject?

Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:37 AM

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thyroid meds

I took synthroid, then levoxyl, my body would not absorb them so I was put on armur thyroid and I love it.

Monday, July 27, 2009, 8:31 AM

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Armour Thyroid

We are having trouble getting Armour Thyroid. The Manufacture of it is having trouble getting the ingredients to make it. They won't promise when they will be able to resume production of it.
Meanwhile we are running to all the pharmacies, chasing down ,the last tablets of Armour Thyroid.

Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:55 PM

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My daughter takes it and it works wonders!!! Go for it.......

Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 2:07 AM

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Armour Replacement

There is a replacement for Armour called Nature Thyroid. Same dosages as Armour. Your doctor can prescribe it just like Armour.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 3:21 AM

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Supplements to help the thyroid do its work

What the thyroid needs to do its job:
The B12 is also linked to fatigue and can get in a "loop" that shuts down absorption digestively. The best way to take B12 is as a Sublingual.
Its fun to look up foods high in these to help your thyroid work smoothly.


Wednesday, September 09, 2009, 12:45 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I had Graves disease and had my thyroid gland ablated in April, 1997. When my Thyroid levels finally dropped my doctor put me on Synthroid. I felt terrible, my feet would swell so badly that if there was any open design on my shoe, my foot would fill in the design. I wear a ring on my right hand and it was nearly buried in my finger my hands were so swollen. My doctor tired increasing my Synthroid dose to no avail. I read an article about Amour Thyroid and went back to my doctor and asked her if I could give it a try. After only about two weeks my swelling was gone, I no longer had tingling in my hands, I stopped iching and felt human for the first time in two long years. I now take 3 grains(180mg) of Armour Thyroid a day and am able to do most anything with the exception of over exerting myself because I have no Thyroid gland. I am completely dependent on my thryroid medication for my energy level. I have to take it everyday for the rest of my life, which is fine with me. I have had one new doctor since my diagnosis who suggested(insisted) I try Synthroid so I did. In two weeks I was swollen and tingly again and then he believed I needed the Armour Thyroid. There is a condition called Wilson's Syndrome where a person's body is unable to turn T4 into T3. I believe I have Wilson's Syndrome because Synthroid is just T4. Armour Thyroid is both T4 and T3. People will debunk the idea of Wilson's but I believe it is very real.

I hope this helps someone out there. Jane

Thursday, September 10, 2009, 12:53 PM

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alternative for Armour

Please tell me the medical name for the Nature Thyroid. I googled it and it does not have a result. I have been taking Armour for 2 years and have had no problems and can't get anymore. I live in S Fl and there are none here. PLEASE help.

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:13 PM

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Nature-throid is the medical name for this drug. The company that makes this also makes Westhroid. They are identical accept for the fact that Nature-throid is hypoallergenic due to its binding ingredients and helpful for those who suffer from food allergies. Nature-throid is wonderful, I have been on it for years. I have posted a link to their website. Good luck!



Monday, September 21, 2009, 6:11 PM

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Does anyone take Armour thyroid medication?

I have been taking synthroid for about a year now. I started out a 75mcg to try to shrink a mutinodular goiter. After several months, the nodules got larger. In Dec 08, I had the thyroid removed. Have been increasing the synthroid and am up to 150mcg, but feel worse all the time. My hair falls out by the handful, my skin is dry and leathery looking, my feet get like ice, my temperature has been subnormal since surgery. I have terrrible foot and ankle pain along with swelling. My upper eyelids become so swollen that sometimes I have to struggle just to keep them open. So tired, even on massive amounts of caffeine. No sex drive and feel so guilty about that, because I really love my husband and we were so close before all this. When at 125mcg my TSH was barely within the upper normal limit, but I feel even worse on the 150 than the 125 dose. I convinced my regular m.d. today to switch me to Armour. He gave me 90mg. I am so hoping this will make me feel at least nominally human again. I used to be active and on the go all them time, and now I barely leave my chair, and struggle to do the bare necessities. Am hoping for a good result as I am feeling like giving up the fight.

Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 8:13 PM

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Tuesday, December 01, 2009, 5:29 PM

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Synthroid vs Armour thyroid

Hi, I have been hypothyroid for 8 years.. Of course my endocrinologist immediately put me on Synthroid... Have never felt the same since... sluggish, brain fog, tired, weight gain, even though my TSH was "always normal" i was miserable.. might I add joint pains....Let me first start by telling you Synthroid is only made up of T4 which has to go to the brain, liver and "already compromised thyroid" to be converted to T3 which you need for brain function, mental/cognitive, etc... after 8 years, this past year I asked my reg doc if we could try the natural Armour... I told her I felt my body wasnt capable of converting T4 into T3 with the synthroid, she agreed and we gave it a go... On day 4.. I felt 100% better, had so much energy, just felt like a new person.. I hadnt felt this way in 8 years... I personally will never take Synthroid again unless im forced too, which in that case will ask to be put on a small dose of T3 along with it, as it makes all the difference....hoping that will have the same effects as the Armour... just to give you and example... I was taking 0.1mg of Synthroid which is equivalent to 60 mg of Armour, but I had to bump up from the 60 to the 90, as I needed a little more... even when my thyroid was a little on the high side with the Armour, 5.8 I still felt 100% better than when it was 1.2 on the Synthroid... I was miserable... I dont understand why docs want to push this synthroid on people.... we know our symptoms but yet, they wont listen, they say your thyroid is fine... but yet I dont feel fine.... I am so glad my family doc let me switch... If I were you I would give it a try, you will see a difference in a few may take a little longer to adjust your dose, but its worth it in the long run...

Monday, January 04, 2010, 10:40 PM

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Armour changed their ingredients

I'm so glad I came across this thread. It's for my mom and she had been w/o a thyroid gland for years...Levothyroxine meds. is a complete failure, providing same symptoms that never disappear. I read about Armour Thyroid and it sounded great until the summer of 2009 where Forest Labs changed the ingredients in their ArmourThyroid batches and people started experiencing previous thyroid symptoms all over again (informed by Dr. Mercola) I'm currently looking at NatureThyroid for T4+T3 hormones but need help looking for a doctor within my area whom is willing to give a pX.
In addition, my medical doctor was a complete ass when I brought up T4+T3 hormones as an alternative solution to my mom's thyroid deficiency and continued to prescribe her T4 only levothyroxine. I asked him why is T3 insignificant to the body, as he mentioned, and he would not give me a clear answer and just bluntly said "you can't expect to learn much from reading stuff online when compared to years of studying at med school..." I felt insulted but I had a hunch it was coming anyway from BigPharma-influenced docs. He also wanted to charge us 50 dollars for a T3 blood level testing. Blasphemy..I will never go back to that office. I'm currently looking at NatureThyroid, anybody have experience with it?? I will much appreciate any advice given as you will contribute to the well-being of my mom!

Thursday, January 07, 2010, 12:04 AM

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Armour Thyroid

Nature Thyroid is the same as Armour and is very hard to find right now. I found a compounding pharmacy that will create Armour who receives the bovine powder from a different lab than Forrest. It will have the T3 and T4 in it. It's exactly the same as Armour Thyroid. It costs more but as far as prescriptions go I still feel it's inexpensive $26/30day. This same Pharmaciist told me that the problem with Forrect labs is the FDA is wanting Armour Thyroid be apporved by them. If Forrest applies it will cost them a great deal of money but in the long run will gane more. So at this time they discontinued it until this goes thru. So friends call around to the neighborhood Pharmacies and speak with the Pharmacists to see if they have a compounding pharmacy that they do business with. It took me 10 mins to find mine. Stay away from the chain pharmacies they were the first to run out. It's the less frequented small pharmacies that can find it for you.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 4:43 PM

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Armour Thyroid

Nature Thyroid is the same as Armour and is very hard to find right now. I found a compounding pharmacy that will create Armour who receives the bovine powder from a different lab than Forrest. It will have the T3 and T4 in it. It's exactly the same as Armour Thyroid. It costs more but as far as prescriptions go I still feel it's inexpensive $26/30day. This same Pharmaciist told me that the problem with Forrect labs is the FDA is wanting Armour Thyroid be apporved by them. If Forrest applies it will cost them a great deal of money but in the long run will gane more. So at this time they discontinued it until this goes thru. So friends call around to the neighborhood Pharmacies and speak with the Pharmacists to see if they have a compounding pharmacy that they do business with. It took me 10 mins to find mine. Stay away from the chain pharmacies they were the first to run out. It's the less frequented small pharmacies that can find it for you.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 4:44 PM

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Armour Thyroid

You can visit and for more information, but Armour Thyroid is currently unavailable.

I took Armour Thyroid for 18 months with perfect results, then they changed the formula in 2009 and I had trouble with it. Didn't smell the same or help in the same way. Then, Armour became totally unavailable, and I switched to a local Compouding Pharmacy for T3/T4. Was still having symptoms so my doctor upped my dosage a month or so ago, and my bloodwork looked good. The problem, however, is that my blood pressure is rising and rising and it's just not as effective as the Armour was. Many of my same symptoms come and go. So, we are going to explore next steps.

My osteopath is terrific. Dr. Arlette Pharo in Houston Heights area.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 5:11 PM

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Armour Thyroid Medication

I have taken Armour for about 20 years. I have not been able to get it lately from CVS. I will certainly contact some of the smaller pharmacies and see what they can do for me. I simply cannot take the synthetic thyroxins. After taking it a few weeks, I become hyper. I feel like climbing the walls and pulling people's hair out. I would rather lay on the couch and die than go back to synthroid. The other synthetic ones are no better. I have tried liothyronine and some other brand (can't remember name). They are no good either. If you can find the natural thyroxin, Armour, you will fare much better by taking it.

Sunday, January 17, 2010, 8:14 PM

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Where can I find Armour

I was diagnosed with hypothyrodism and have been on Synthroid for the past 9 years. At first, I felt great, but several months ago I began to feel as though I am not doing as well as I could be. I asked and was granted an increased dose of Synthroid. Within a month of the increase, I developed a rash that eventually turned into hives and a rash pretty much all over my torso with severe itching on my legs. Doc says to get off the Synthroid which I hated to do because I felt bad as it was, but eventually gave in and have been off it for almost a week now. The rash and hives are still driving me insane, but I expect that to start to clear up in this next week (hoping so anyway). Doc said we will have to switch to Armour, but finding a phamacy might not be so easy.

I live in Montrose and work downtown . If you know where I can get some, please let me know.

In researching my rash and hives, I found this discussion board as well as many other which have been so helpful to me. I did not know my high cholesterol and hypoglycemia, my extreme weight gain, lingering fatigue, dead weight feeling in the a.m., fogginess, etc. were related to the Synthroid. I'm been steadily going down this road for years and had no idea what was going on! I'm miserable with this rash and the hives, but if the information I've gleaned from having this infliction is only half truth, I'm going to be that much better off.

Wow, who would have guessed? It's the medication I've been taking to make me better, not worse.

Thank you for all your comments, knowledge and information. I'm so glad to have found this board.

Monday, January 18, 2010, 5:18 PM

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Armour Thyroid

Hello to my friend in Montrose. I am in Santa Clarita. At this time you can get the same ingredients as Armour from other Labs. I use a compounding pharmacy *Orange Plaza Pharmacy in Orange County. 714 550 9798 they can overnight the armour thyroid compound to a local pharmacy near you. Its more expensive if you dont have ins. As I said the bovine powder they use at Forest labs is also created at other labs and this pharmacy gaurantees it 100%. Good luck.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 9:33 PM

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Armour from Canada

Monday, January 25, 2010, 10:41 AM

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I was finally diagnosed hypo and my NP started me on Armour. My cousin takes Armour and has had amazing results. This is my second day on the medication and I am feeling a bit jittery but it's nothing unbearable. Are initial side effects common when you start the medication?

Friday, January 29, 2010, 1:19 PM

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Don't notice a difference anymore

I started Armour about a year ago and for about a week I felt great and had so much energy. However, after that things went back to normal. I have never had the extreme exhaustion I know so many people get, just sluggish. My dr did up my dose to 90 from 60, but I notice no difference in how I feel. My levels are normal and I am able to lose weight again, but I feel like I should feel some sort of physical improvement. Has anyone else experienced this?

Sunday, March 14, 2010, 6:20 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I have been on Synthroid or Levoxyl for 20 years. I have felt like a Zombie for
twenty years. I have lost those 20 years thanks to a bunch of idiot doctors that would not prescribe Armour. There are doctors out there that should be prosecuted for stealing people's lives for not give us the medicine that they KNOW could help us. I've lost relationships, missed out on important things with my children etc, etc. I could go on and on.
This last year has been the worst. I could hardly get out of bed. I had to force myself to get up and go to work. I quit going to church, to family functions etc. I started researching hypothyroidism on the internet and read about Armour Thyroid again. It sounded like the miracle drug I've been looking for. I asked my NEW doctor and he said he would prescribe Armour. My daughter works for a pharmacy, so I asked the pharmacist what he thought about armour and he said we have alot of people on it and that it works good. And he said they do have the drug. My insurance wouldn't cover it, but it was only $13.00.

I started on Armour Thyroid today. I know this sounds silly, but I have energy
that I haven't had in years. And I can feel the brain fog lifting. I'll keep you posted on how it works. I give God the glory for this. I have been praying and praying for some relief and prayers have been answered. Thank you, God!

Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 2:21 PM

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Armour vs Synthroid

have been on Armour Thyroid for over a year. It works great. It did what it was suppose do, absolutely no side effects. I moved to Houston and trying to find a doctor. She was hesitant to fill my armour prescription but no explanation, then told me that armour is discontinued and sent me to endro. I went and he tells what an awful drug the armour is and put me on Sythroid. I have been on over two weeks. It is pure hell. I itch, my digestive system messed, no appetite but I gained 7lbs already, no engergy, constant headache and feeling like I am numb, want to cry and but can only cry on the inside. I called him, he told me take two more weeks and come in. I checked with my pharmacy. They have plenty of armour. I begged him to prescribe the armour but he won't. Please! If anyone knows a doctor anywhere near the houston area that will give me armour and not insist I take this horrible Shynthroid please post name and address. Why should I suffer when the armour worked great for me and i had no side effect or no waiting of it to build up in my system. I don't understand what these doctors are trying to do. If you are on armour and your doctor tries to switch you, unless you having problems I wouldn't suggest this hell to anyone.

Friday, April 23, 2010, 4:07 PM

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Inconsistent armour

This what they say, but how inconsisistent can Levothyroxine be if they caution you from switching brands and have to monitor so closely? It feels like death. I am thinking of taking nothing. I am not sure if it could be any worse than taking this. If it makes me feel this bad how can it be good for me? I will spend hours on the phone next week until I find a doctor that will prescribe Armour. I am willing to get on a plane to see a doctor if I have to.

Friday, April 23, 2010, 4:11 PM

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Armour vs levoxyl

I had thyroid cancer and a thyroidectomy last July. I was put on Levoxyl, I feel the same as you, wirey....Irritable, snappy and have hot flashes and broken sleep all night long, as well as feeling just,"not too great." I have an appontment to see my endocrinologist next Thursday and I am gonna aske her to switch me to Armour. I have spoken to many people, including my aunt that says Armour just works better and she feels better. I hope my doctor is open and willing to switch me, as I feel this is my quality of life were talking about...I want to feel my best, and Levoxyl doesn't make me feel this way. I also went to a really great healthfood store and got 2 supplements to help with this problem as well, and I will keep you all posted! Have a blessed day!

Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 4:37 PM

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Armour wasn't my magic pill

I have been on levothyroxin/levoxyl for 6 years. No problems, had energy, and kept my weight normal. My sister had switched to Armour and after trying to turn my eating organic I thought well why not switch to a more natural thyroid medication. I was on 112 mcgs of synthetic and my dr put me on 60 of Armour. (to start me off) I didn't pay much attention to how I was feeling and actually didn't realize a big difference until about 4 weeks into it where I started feeling EXHAUSTED and could hardly move! I got my blood re-tested at the 6 week mark and my TSH level was at 42! (very high!!) Basically the Armour wasn't working at all on me! I debated whether or not to continue the Armour, up the dosage, but after some thought I told myself WHY am I trying to fix something that was already great? I also gained weight during the time I was on Armour while I was being very food concious and working out 3-4 days a week. That was SO fruatrating for me! I felt like I just messed up my body and it was my own doing. It is amazing though as I search the internet I can't find hardly ANY bad things people say about Armour....only good it was their magic pill. So I am still comfused but I just know I don't EVER want to feel like I did on the Armour. I felt just fine on the other stuff and I desperately need to get my TSH back in line. (not only for energy but I have to lose this weight I put on while it was all messed up!) My conclusion is this: If you feel great on the levothyroxin (synthetic) why mess with it ??- if you don't feel great then yes!!!! try Armour. It seems to be the magic pill for so many people! I wish it worked for me but I'm not willing to mess around with levels any more than I already have. I just want go back to what worked for me.

Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:57 PM

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My Naturopath put me on both Levoxyl and Armour at the same time. She determined this from blood work. It is working well for me. My weight is staying put.

Saturday, May 22, 2010, 2:13 AM

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Armour/ Synthroid/ Levothyroxin

I suffered from fatigue and cold intolerance for a good 4 years before finally being diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease early this year. I went through numerous doctors and had to insist on many tests to rule out anything I thought to be a possible condition which could warrant my symptoms. Mostly I was told I could be depressed or that I might have. CFS, which nothing can really be done about. Finally, I came across some interesting info about mercury toxicity and its link to many illnesses. I told my doctor I wanted to be tested for mercusy levels. He obliged and also sent in a rheumatology test, which came back showing antibodies. I had previously been tested several times for hypothyroidism, however my TSH, T3, and T4 levels all came back within the normal range. Anyway, my MD sent me to a rheumatologist, thinking I might have lupus. The rheumatologist ran some more tests and determined that I indeed have an autoimmune illness- Hashimoto's disease. He put me on generic synthroid, which seemed fine at first, but before the 1st month was up I was experiencing nausea and irritability from feeling sick all the time, as well as headaches. My doctor put me on Synthroid for the next month, and what I noticed during that month was a very heavy period (mine were previously very light) as well as another one about 2 weeks later. I also felt as if my knee were swollen a couple times. It felt bruised and painful for no reason and I couldn't walk on it, and 1 time my left eyelid swelled up also. Not cool, so I told my doctor I wanted to switch to Armour because of the side effects I was having. Well, he refused, but I was not going to pay $20 for medication to make me feel like that! So I did my research, and even considered switching doctors, but there appears to be a shortage where I live, and if I had to wait another 3 months to get in to see a new doctor, I would be suffering for that 3 months. No way! So I told my doctor (by phone) that I had heard about cass where the makers of Synthroid were being named in lawsuits as well as doctors who prescribed the drug to patients. I received a call back and my Armour prescription was faxed to my pharmacy immeediately. I haven't had any negative side effects and I'm on my second month. My cold intolerence has imporoved, but sadly not my fatigue really. However, I'm on 30mg and don't see my doc again til August, so maybe my dose will need to be readjusted. I also have CFS, so that likely plays a factor in my continued fatigue. However, my CFS and Hashimoto's likely startd at the same time. I used to be able to work out 7 days a week, and now can do very little since I came down with mono in 2006. As long as I keep my hope up as far as being able to resume my quality of life, this can't defeat me. I began to feel defeat though when the first drugs were making me feel worse. If anyone has questions or wants to know more or just connect for support on this, my email is I wish all of you luck on your journey to health. Remember, God never gives us more than we can handle!

Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:09 PM

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thyroid meds

hi,I'vetried levoxyl and synthroid,broke out in hives off & on for yrs,did research on Armour & found that is the best 1 to take,been on it for 3 yrs now & don't break out anymore & feel much better,have to say synthroid was the worst.

Monday, July 19, 2010, 5:52 PM

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armour thyroid

I was on synthetic thyroid (Oroxine) for four years and was having leg cramps in the night, hair loss and fatigue. I put on lots of weight since having my thyroid removed so began eating healthy and exercising every day. The weight started coming off but very slowly and I was still feeling tired, despite my blood level showing normal thyroid levels. I read a lot about Armour and wanted to try it but all doctors I tried refused to give it to me. I finally found a holistic dr who prescribed me with Armour along with bio identical hormones (as I have had a hysterectomy including ovaries removed) It has been a month since starting armour and the hormone troche and I feel fantastic. The fatigue has gone and my weight is coming off and a good rate now. No more hair left on the pillow and no more leg cramps. I can't say if it is because of the armour though as the hormone replacement therapy may also be contributing. All my medication is from a compounding pharmacy and it's quite expensive. $64 Australian for the armour for 2 months and $63 Australian for the hormone troches per month but it is definitely worth it to feel back to my normal self. And for anyone who is reading this that has had ovaries removed they will be interested to know my libido is was zero with no hormone replacement. So hubby happily pays for my troches :D

Wednesday, August 04, 2010, 6:07 PM

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Armour Thyroid - Houston

Did you ever get your Armour in Houston? My doctor just prescribed this for me this morning.

Monday, August 30, 2010, 3:17 PM

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aromur thyroid

I was on Armour for 17 Years and felt great. My Dr. retired and the new Dr. refused to Prescribe it . He put me on Levoxyl. I finally found a Female Dr. who was hesitant to put me on it and she also put me on Levoxyl. It was not nearly as effective. For over a year Armour was not available anywhere. It is now back on the market and just got my Prescription filled and have been on it for just 5 days and feel terrific. It is like a Cloud has lifted. I can not believe the difference. Please.......... Persist in getting on the Armour. After 20 years I can tell you it works the best. My Daughter takes it, my Mom takes it and my sister alson takes it. We all have Hypothyroid disease. The bonus is it is Cheap. I know you can get it in the US and Cananda.

Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 11:02 PM

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I took armour thyroid for over 20 years with no problems. About 10 years ago I started having huge hives/welts all over. No one could figure out what was causing the problems. On one of my many trips to ER I met a lady with almost the same symptoms. It turned out we had armour thyroid in common. For about 10 months I was treated with predisone and nothing else. It did help, but hives returned as soon as I stopped. I finally took myself off of armour thyroid and the hives disappeared immediately. The Armour thyroid company would only tell me they "reformulated" the product. I have been on Synthroid over 10 years now and have gained 75 lbs. The other symptoms have gotten worse even tho my tests are "normal". I would like to try another natural thyroid again, but am concerned I would have same problems. Has anyone heard of this type of reaction to armour and/or what could have been the cause? Are there other natural thyroid products I could try? Drs. give no help with this. They want me on Synthroid and could care less about how I feel!

Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 1:49 PM

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What about getting back on the armour, if it's back on the market?

I took armour for about 3 years, then went off it. I take natural supplements now, I use the list I read from an article about Jillian Michael's "Master your Metabolism". I test around and find different herbs with the nutritional qualities described below:

Hormonal Imbalance Culprits Your Nutritional Rx
Low Thyroid: Depression, fatigue, poor memory, dry skin, hair loss, constipation, body-wide weight gain. Extreme dieting, stress, life passages, pesticides Selenium aids the manufacture of active thyroid hormone T3. Source: Walnuts, Brazil nuts
Low progesterone: Cravings, low libido, PMS, insomnia, anxiety, fat gain in belly, hips and thighs stress, birth control pills, smoking/second hand smoke, pesticides, toxins from plastic Indole-3-carbinol stimulates detoxing enzymes that flush competing hormones from the body. Sources: broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage
Low Testosterone: Weak muscles, blue mood, fatigue, low motivation, low sex drive, belly fat The acne Rx Accutane, chronically elevated blood sugar, lack of weight bearing exercise Niacin boosts HDL "good" cholesterol which is a building block of testosterone
Elevated Cortisol: Insomnia, fatigue, frequent infections, high blood pressure, low libido, belly fat Chronic Stress, unresolved anger, skipping meals, excess sugar or caffeine Vitamin C increases the adrenals resistance to stress, preventing cortisol spikes. Sources: canteloupe, citrus, strawberries, watermelon.
Elevated Insulin: facial hair, fatigue, cravings, mood swings, irregular periods, severe menopause, belly fat overconsumption of real and artificial sweeteners, stress, plastics, infections Magnesium regulates insulin production and increases the cells sensitivity to the hormone. Sources Swiss chard, spinach, walnuts, quinoa
Elevated Leptin: hunger, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, signs of inflammation such as joint aches menopause, stress, food additives, infections, smoking Omega 3 fats cause a drop in Leptin and increase the body's sensitivity to the hormone. Sources: salmon, tuna, flaxseed

Friday, October 01, 2010, 11:01 PM

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I think it's a synergy of balanced hormones. Also, I read that cleansing one's liver is helpful and I've found that is true for me.

Friday, October 01, 2010, 11:06 PM

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ARMOUR is available

I was diagnosed hypo in a major way in April 2010, began my regimen with Armour, tested monthly for the following 4 months. I am 50, male, and was basically the walking dead. You will never take my Armour away. 120 mcg in the morning, 90 mcg evening. I live in the South, CVS is my pharmacy and I have not had one issue with my supply. Just saw my Internal Med Dr. (who also takes it), he told me this is the best solution for me (he does have some patients on Syn). He told me one of the problems with syn is the generic market. Levels are all over the place. I am thankful to be on Armour, my diagnostic blood work had 5 items that read PANIC. All are normal 7 months later. When talking to your health provider remind them they are still "practicing" and to think outside of the box. As to Armour, I will be on this medication the rest of my life.

Monday, October 25, 2010, 8:28 AM

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ARMOUR is available "correction"

In my post above,I wrote mcg, it is mg, sorry for any confusion!

Monday, October 25, 2010, 8:34 AM

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Desiccated Thyroid (Armour) did not work with my body.

In response to previous post: "Armour Thyroid No No No" about Armour Thyroid causing congestive heart failure and osteoporosis...

I am glad to read this.... well.. I don't know if "glad" is exactly the right word but basically, unfortunately, this is EXACTLY what I have been feeling like ON the Armour Thyroid.

I am 34 yrs old and have been taking Thyroid meds since I was 15. I was on Synthroid until 2 years ago when I switched to Armour (and also T3 because Armour was not enough alone). I have severe Hypothyroidism. My thyroid is barely functional. I am the BIGGEST advocate for natural remedies. I even work for a hollistic healthcare center. I actually help people who want natural alternatives to Rx meds.. for a living.
I have tried 3 times to go off my thyroid meds. (With multiple specialists and have tried every supplement, exercised, addressed my adrenals, etc.) Each time has almost landed me in the hospital. One time my doctor told me that I was lucky I did not end up in a coma. And guess what? I STILL contimued my quest of going off Thyroid meds or at least staying on natural thyroid meds such as Armour. Every time I have ended up really sick and at this point, after being on Armour for over 2 years, I am thinking of going back on Synthroid.
My symptoms that I have been experiencing on the Armour are:
Weight gain, general feeling of heaviness throughout my body/tissue, heart pain, labored breathing, cellulite, increased depression, lethargy, slowed thought, worse memory, and my bones feel like they are falling apart, I literally feel like I have the bones of an 80 year old woman and I never felt like this on Synthroid.
HOWEVER, I CAN drink coffee now! :) When I could never drink coffee on Synthroid. I would get an instant panic attack... and I like coffee so that I will miss if/when I switch back.
Well, I am glad to find one post that describes how I am feeling because my doctor and other advisors around me keep telling me how great natural thyroid is, and I cannot deny anymore that there is no question, I feel way worse on Armour. I wish it wasn't true, but it is. I hate taking synthetic things but I guess I have no choice.
So just so everyone knows, desiccated thyroid hormone (Armour, etc.) does not actually work for everyone, still proceed with caution like anything else.
And as always, be your own doctor. Doctors are humans just like us. The best thing is to be your own doctor and to use them as your coworkers or employees. You know your body better than anyone and we are all unique.

Thank you.

Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 2:57 PM

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I wrote the entry above this. I just wanted to add, if anyone else who has had a similar experience has any suggestions I would appreciate it. (like thyroid med from plant extracts?)
Also, good luck to any of you who are suffering. I was told, a 15 when diagnosed with hypothyroidism, that it was no big deal and that lots of people have it. I have since come to realize that it is actually kind of a big deal and Synthroid (like any synthetic drug) should be the last resort... even though it may end up being what works best for you.) For all I know, if I had tried natural remedies at 15, maybe I could have cured my thyroid. But after 19 years, now it is just too risky (lord knows I tried).
Anyway, it is what it is... and in the long run, I need to do whatever will keep me and my body the happiest now.. because life is uncertain. Just because my ideals happen to be all about natural cures, doesn't mean that that is what my body always wants or needs. And that's OK. Seems once again, nature wins over logic after all.

Good luck to all of you,


Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 4:04 PM

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Chronic Cough causes

My husband had a chronic cough that drove us both crazy for over a year--neither of us could sleep because of it. His doctors tested him for allergies, sinus drainage, etc., without finding the cause. I searched the internet looking for a cause of various chronic coughs and learned that some blood pressure medications containing ACE inhibitors can cause one to have a chronic cough. I printed out the article and made an appointment for my husband, as his medication did contain an ACE inhibitor. His physician changed his medication and within a week or so (as the previous medication was cleansed from his system) the cough was gone.

Saturday, November 13, 2010, 2:07 PM

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How to take Armor Thyroid

Can anyone tell me how to take Armor Thyroid. I used to take Levothyroxin in the morning one half hour before eating. Also it was suggested that I take my vitamins atleast one hour after taking my medication. Now I am taking Armor Thyroid twice a day. Do I take them on an empty stomach or with food. Also, am I suppose to wait before taking any vitamins or supplements. Thanks for everyones comments. I'm am excited to know there is a natural solution to my hypothyroidism. I have been on Levothyroxin for 15 years so I am praying Armor Thyroid works for me.

Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 1:42 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I took 30 mg. of Armour Thyroid for 6 months and felt very good. Then the doctor increased it to 60 mg. and everything reversed. I regained the 5 pounds I had lost, had stomach cramps and a very all over sore stomach area, itching, etc. All of this happened in the first 6-8 weeks of the 60 mg. The doctor called it an idiosyncratic allergic reaction. Anyone else have this experience?
I am now on two generic thyroid medications, but do not feel as good as I did on the 30 mg. of Armour.

Thursday, January 13, 2011, 1:57 PM

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I took Armour for 4 years without any problem (prescribed by an alternative medicine practitioner when I tested low for T3). I had no problem with the Erfa product from Canada. I used it when Armour was not available.


Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 7:26 AM

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Armour thyroid

I have never taken Synthroid or Levoxal but I have taken Armour Thyroid for years. Never had any side affects, the only thing that happened with me was I had to keep having the dose increased. But I did feel a whole lot better, more energy, sleeping better, NO MORE NIGHT SWEATS OR HOT FLASHES. Well once in a while but nothing like I was getting. Hair stopped falling out and also helped with the mood swings. Call around and get prices it can be a little high in some places. I get mine at Sams Club pharmacy $17.01. Most places its $26-$35

Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 8:14 AM

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I, too felt so strange when I switched from Levothyroxine to Armour. I had to switch because i still had alot of symptoms and felt like hey! If I have to commit to taking a pill for the rest of my life I really want it to work. I did a lot of research and kept seeing great comments about armour. I called and asked my Dr. to switch my meds for me and she did so without a problem at all. I have been oni it for only a month. The first two weeks were anxiety city for me. A lot of panic attacks but I kept on taking it like I was supposed to and now I feel really good. I have one more month and then I will get my blood checked again. That will determin if my dose should be raised. She started me off on a really small dose. The only other thing driving me crazy is all of the insane hair loss. Whoa it falls outin the shower, whie i am brushing, it gets tangled in between my fingers when I put the hair products in. My husband finds it in the kitchen when he is cooking. It's everywhere. But to be completely honest and slightly vulgar my main problem (very hard stools) are over. I go ever morning at the same time and it doesn't hurt :)

Saturday, May 14, 2011, 12:55 PM

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i want armour

i have been on synthroid for more than a year, and it was all misery. i came across this medication after some online research and im feeling like my life might be in armour. i ve just printed that NEJM article and some armour thyroid prescribing information from the company which i 'll take to my endo. hope this will work out.

Sunday, May 15, 2011, 4:22 PM

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natural thyroid treatment

why not try this natural thyroid treatment


Wednesday, June 01, 2011, 1:19 AM

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I have been hypothyroid since 1994 and was first placed on Synthroid for many years. I experienced weight gain, water retention, and hair loss. Several years later I met a doctor sympathetic to my symptoms and asked if I would be willing to try a different medication. I was put on Armour as well as a small dose of Cytomel...I have never felt better in my life. I will never go back to Synthroid again.

Wednesday, June 08, 2011, 8:37 AM

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I took Levothyroxine, Levoxyl and finally Armour. Levothyroxine is generic Levoxyl, the dosage was not consistent so I would have drops where I would suddenly need to sleep in the middle of the day. When I say sudden, I mean sudden, one day I was at home when I felt very tired. My arms suddenly were so heavy I could hardly lift them. I made it to my bed about 50 feet and was out before my head hit the pillow & slept for a couple of hours.

My Dr switched me to Levoxyl and I felt better but not normal. I also felt a burning in the back of my head. The Dr. thought it was due to being allergic to one of the fillers. But I also still had symptoms, hair loss, fatigue, menstrual bleeding almost daily, thick patches of skin that peeled off and oncholysis (sp?)

Then my Dr. switched me to Armour and all the problems went away. My hair started growing again and became silky, my fingernails reattached, my fingers didn't hurt anymore, aches and pains went away as did the burning head feeling. My period became normal and I had energy!! Before I had my thyroid out I ran 10 miles a week and did cardio-kickboxing 3 hours a week. On the synthetic T4 only I couldn't keep up in the class and had to stop running all together. I gained 13 pounds. On the Armour I was able to lose weight and exercise like before.

On the Armour the TSH isn't as important as the Free T3 & Free T4 tests, so find a Dr. that will dose based on those tests.

Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 10:36 PM

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Does anyone need Armor Thyroid?

The big drug companies don't like Armor Thyroid because it's natural and you can't patent it, so they can't charge an exorbitant fee for it. It also fixes hypothyroidism, which Synthroid, levoxyl, et al don't (in my experience) so they can sell you a lot of other drugs to fix all the problems that their patented drugs don't fix.

Armor Thyroid (and West Throid or Nature Throid) just fix everything for hypothyroid people.

This is a very complicated issue, and you can find out a lot more about it at:

Thursday, December 22, 2011, 12:08 AM

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weight gain

I to have hypothyroidism. Weight is a big problem for me... I have been on synthroid and also the generic Levthyroxin for more then 40 yrs. I have gained a lot of weight this past 2 yrs. I feel so tired all the time. I will be asking my Dr. to start me on Armour I want to see if maybe it will work better. About your weight I don't know how much you have put back on but, I wanted to remind you that with exercise you build muscle and muscle weights more... so some of your weight gain may be your increased muscle mass... Which is good because muscle burns fat.... Give the Armour a while your body need to adjust to the change... kmenurse

Friday, January 27, 2012, 12:49 PM

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So--how to make a long story short.
I started taking Synthroid in 2001. I was feeling crappy after having come through whooping cough and accidental pesticide poisoning. My TSH levels tested borderline low. My number corrected but my overall feeling did not. After, about 5 years and going to school for herbalism and nutrition, I found a Dr. who would prescribe and monitor my use of Armour. It is very important to work with someone who knows this medication. He had me run the dose up then lower it to where I was feeling "right"--not something to do without monitoring. Also, during this time period I was working with my diet. Two of this major things I was doing that can effect the thyroid--eating unfermented soy products and gluten. After reading and learning a lot about soy and the thyroid, I will not consume unfermented soy. I also added lots of veggies and seaweed. Really cleaned up my food sources and stopped eating most processed foods. I changed doctors and my new doctor continued prescribing the Armour. Then there was a time (about 2009) when Armour was withdrawn or unavailable for a while and it was suggested I go back to Synthroid. I talked with an endocrinologist and asked what would happen if I stopped using any medication. Since I was borderline when it was first prescribed, he suggested I give it a try. My numbers went back to the borderline. I've since given up gluten and my numbers came down below borderline.and more importantly how I feel great. It has been quite a puzzle and I hope you come to a solution that works for you.

Sunday, January 29, 2012, 7:08 PM

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I went from syntroid to Armour

and it was the best thing I could do for myself!! Even when I was on the syntroid I still felt "foggy" but on Armour I dont, I feel more human with armour. I would lose just handfuls of hair each time I would shower and through out the day when I was on the syntroid. With Armour I barely lose any hair. I did the research myself on Armour and read reviews and how people felt different and what not. I took my info into the doctor and asked to be switched to Armour. She was more than happy to switch me. Which I was suprised since I read that most doctors arent a fan of Armour. If you have any questions feel free to email me. I would be more than happy to answer any questions!! I hope this has helped.

Wednesday, February 08, 2012, 10:46 AM

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Armour Thyroid

When my thyroid tanked (4.5 to 19.2 in five months!), the Dr. prescribed Levoxyl, and the pharmacy gave me generic Levothyroxine. By the third day of taking it, I was experiencing a horrible allergic reaction, including having non-stop suicidal thoughts, (voices in my head, complete with detailed instructions on how to kill myself!). The Dr. said it was a reaction to one of the fillers in the generic Levothyroxine and had the pharmacy give me Levoxyl. The itching lessened a bit, and the suicidal thoughts diminished somewhat, but I still felt awful. I did my own research and decided I wanted Armour Thyroid, since it's a natural product. Within 24 hours of taking the first pill, all allergic symptoms ceased, and all suicidal thoughts stopped. Within 3 days, I was feeling human again, energetic even! I've been on it over four years, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. Many doctors don't like Armour Thyroid, because it's not standardized, like synthetic drugs are. Because it's made from pig thyroid glands, it can vary in potency. However, the variances are micro in nature, and the manufacturer constantly measures content, just the same as other pharmaceuticals do. I would highly recommend that anyone needing thyroid hormone supplementation try Armour Thyroid FIRST. If it doesn't work within a month, you can always go the synthetic route. I would, at all costs, stay away from generic Levothyroxine and even brand-name Levoxyl. While not everyone is likely to be allergic to whatever they use for filler, I've heard of enough cases, similar to my experience, to steer me clear of those drugs forever!

Thursday, February 23, 2012, 9:49 AM

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To Armour Thyroid NO NO NO

Your endocrinologist needs to see a psychiatrist.


Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 7:14 PM

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my daughter was diagnosed with hashimoto disease and was put on synthroid..she tolerated it for 2 years but her hair kept thinning and she kept getting bouts of nausea and fatigue and migraines. She went gluten free and immediately her migraines stopped as did her nausea. She then found a doctor who listened and put her on Armour and presto! Her panic attacks stopped within 48 hours...she began to feel 'normal' for the first more nausea, and best of all...her hair stopped falling out and began to grow longer and thicker. I would highly recommend purchasing 'Stop the Thyroid Madness", great book written by people who suffer from thyroid issues. She was also diagnosed with Celiac disease..which in order to put in remission you must go gluten free. However, thryoid disease, like hashimoto's, is an auto-immune disease. Auto immune diseases are inflammatory to the body. Gluten works on a cellular level and increases taking gluten out of the diet you will see improvement in weight, skin, hair and bloating..just an all over feeling of wellness! Hope this helped. And of course everyone is different so what works for some may not work for others.

Monday, April 02, 2012, 9:44 AM

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took synthroid and now Armour

Hi, I was diagnosed with hypothyroid in the fourth grade and now as a junior in highschool still struggle with getting the med right. I have been on synthroid since this last month now and decided to switch to armour because I know someone who had it work for them. I have only been on armour for about three weeks but I feel worse then I ever have. It could be that the levels are wrong and I have to meet with my doctor to talk about it. If you are thinking of switching consider that certain meds are right for certain people. I can't explain it exactly but it just works that way. Also make sure you choose a doctor that knows how to perscribe the right level for you, or has worked with the medication before. I say try it yu never know if it'll work for you. I am taking a risk and just seeing where it gets me because if I can feel like I did eight years ago, that would be the best thing for me. Good luck :)

Monday, April 02, 2012, 9:59 PM

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Armour Thyroid

The problem is with doctors who are still strictly by your TSH level versus the way you feel. Your doctor was right to put you on Armour, but wrong to not take into account how you were feeling. I would just take 1/2 of the 60 mg pill.

Sunday, April 08, 2012, 11:52 AM

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Armour thyroid

I tried levothriod and synthroid and they made my symtoms worse. I started on Armour thryoid and a miricale happened I began to feel like a normal person again. I have been on it for over 20 years. Give it a try what to lose!! Margaret

Thursday, April 19, 2012, 7:05 PM

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Switch from Synthroid to Armor

When I was about 47 they found a nodule on my thyroid gland. I had it biopsied and after hearing the statistics I decided not to have the benign growth removed. I am now nearly 60 and it has not changed. I was put on synthroid after I had read an article describing my symptoms and it told me to demand that my doctor measure my TSH levels, which he had not been doing. It revealed I had a non-functioning thyroid. When I was 56 I had a terrible bout of hives, it took about 2 weeks to clear and we never knew what caused them. I again had them at 58, this time I filled in a diary of all my actions and foods. I figured out that they "bloomed" 25-30 min after taking the synthroid. I told my doctor and he switched me to Armor, after 1 week of no meds and the hives decreased immediately after stopping them. I have been on 1 grain for about a year and a half and am now experiencing the old symptoms dry skin, foggy brain, brittle hair, swelling ankles etc. They check my levels every 6 months, but I noticed I'm having depression again. So I am waiting for the results now. I am much happier with the Armor, it cost about $95 when I first began and it's down to 3 months for $20 so the price is right! I will never go back to synthetic hormones. - Rain

Sunday, June 24, 2012, 3:10 AM

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Armour vs Synthroid

Many Dr's still lean toward the medicines they recieve a "rebate" for. I suspect that synthroid would be one with rebate, since it is synthetic. Don't be fooled by your own research. Dr.'s are just people who are trying to earn a living. Adding prescriptions that give them "rebates" (we no longer use the term kickback although that is what it is) add to their income.

Thursday, July 26, 2012, 11:00 AM

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Armour is the most natural medicine available today. Dr. David Brownstein, The Leading Expert in Thyroid Disease, explains it in his book. I take Levothyroxin sodium now, but am demanding to be pur on either Armour Thyroid, Nature-Throid or Westhroid. These 3 are best, in his and in my opinion. This is based on alot of research. If you have allergies to cornstarch or are worried about the possible aluminum in cornstarch then you can use Nature-Throid which is bound by microcrystalline cellulose (derived from paper. Armour and the other 3 are Desiccated Thyroid not Levothyroxine Sodium. This means It has T4, but also has T3, T2, T1, Calcitonin, Selenium, Diuretic Effect. The Levo product only has T4. The Armour helps to convert the T4 into the much needed T3. Hope this helps

Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 3:25 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I have been on Amour since I was 16 years old and I am now 53. A doctor switched me about 10 years ago to synthroid. I felt like I was dead! Fortunately I was able to switch back to Armour but last year the swine flu impacted the amount available. I was able to continue to get it, thankfully, and I never want to take anything else but Armour.

Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 9:21 PM

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Armour Thyroid

I've been on Armour Thyroid, 2 grains, for over 60 years. Every dr I've gone to started out by trying to get me away from Armour and onto Synthroid. They all had similar reasons: Armour is made from pig's hormones and not consistent from pill to pill, etc. I also just received a notice from my insurance pharmacy that they advise me to get off Armour, partly because it's not good for older people. I don't have a weight problem, unless I gorge myself on sugar and pastries. I'm 5'4 and weight 139 lbs. At 78, I think I'm doing fine.

Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 11:42 PM

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My doctor wants me to take it so I'm looking for as much info as possible.

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Armour Thyroid Medication

I am interested to hear of any updates on this product, or if there are any new ones available that are more effective?

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