EMAIL THREAD If you cut out Bread and Dairy, you WILL lose weight I challenge anyone to try this- and not lose weight. If you do this, you will lose weight. I'm sure i'll hear someone say "I need x from my milk!" No you don't. Mon. Jan 29, 12:39pm

are you trying to start a debate? the posting sounds a bit charged...i cut out dairy and bread and am still waiting to see results. i think it might be a more accurate statement to say that cutting out bread may not be enough, but cutting out wheat is helpful for some. Monday, January 29, 2007, 12:50 PM

If you cut out any staple item from your diet, you'll lose weight, provided you don't just replace those calories with more of something else- If you cut out all meats, you'll lose weight. If you cut out all vegetables, you'll lose weight. If you stop eating alltogether, you'll lose weight. Monday, January 29, 2007, 12:55 PM

bread and dairy are calorie dense so yes, cut them out and you will be taking in less calories most likely so you will lose weight. i have lost 73 lbs by eating bread, dairy, meats, fruits, vegetables, chocolate, you NAME it! it's about portion control, moderation and exercise. it's not about one food group or another. Monday, January 29, 2007, 1:03 PM

Oh, lordy. If only it were that simple. I've been vegan (= no dairy, among other things) for years and haven't eaten bread in many, many months. Unfortunately I ate loads of (albeit whole wheat) pasta, sat around on my kiester, and blew up like a balloon. Perhaps you did mean wheat-free, but it wasn't until I got off my bum and cut down those portions that the weight has come off. Monday, January 29, 2007, 1:06 PM

broad, generalized staements just don't do it for me. i rarely take the advice of an in-your-face comment like the originally posted one. it's too vague. Monday, January 29, 2007, 1:11 PM

1:06 - I'm with you. I hate when people think that being vegetarian or vegan is an easy weight-loss method. Monday, January 29, 2007, 2:24 PM

I gained soooo much weight as a Vegetarian- replaced meats with cheeses and pasta. Whoops. Monday, January 29, 2007, 2:35 PM

I used to envy those people who sucked down huge plastic mugs of soda all day, because all they had to do to lose weight would be to drink water instead. Then I looked for a similar pattern in my own diet, and realized that I could cut WAY back on milk and still get 2 1/2 cups a day. So I did. I lost quite a bit of weight, and while milk wasn't my only strategy, it sure sped things up (I probably dropped about 350-500 calories in milk alone per day). I wouldn't give up milk because I LOVE it and because it's the easiest way for me to get calcium, which I need because I have bones. :^ ) I wouldn't give up bread, either, because I love it. I don't give up chocolate, because I love it. Honestly, the worst thing I can do when I'm trying to lose weight or change my eating habits is to cut out something I really like. It backfires, for me. So I make sure I'm not just eating out of habit or boredom, and that I really want what I'm reaching for, and that most of what I put in my mouth is good, wholesome, healthy food. Different personalities work differently. I'm sure some people could cut out milk, or bread, or all sugar, and lose weight that way, and if they were informed and interested they could get plenty of calcium elsewhere. I'm not one of them, which is just fine. Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 12:33 AM

I agree that if you cut out any one food that you will lose weight -- but if it is not something you can stick with forever, the pounds will come back as soon as you start eating them again. I have lost 20lbs so far on PeerTrainer and I eat dairy and bread EVERY day. So, I guess everyone has to find what works for them - I happen to love carbs and cheese so I could never give them up. Just wouldn't work for me. Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 10:14 AM

10:14 AM on Tuesday: My feelings exactly. So far, I have lost 32 pounds on PT and I eat cheese (or another dairy product) and various types of bread (rye, whole wheat, mixed grains) almost every day. And in addition to bread I often eat lots of other carbs (rice, brown rice, barley, pasta - whole wheat or not). I love carbs + dairy products. Everybody has to find the right path for themselves and the path is, ideally, something you'll be able to live with for the next 30 or 40 or 60 years. Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 3:20 PM

I buy this. Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 1:10 AM

If anyone is interested in trying the challenge to cut dairy from their diet I just started a team "Dairy free for 21 days." I'm doing it to see how it affects my health but I welcome anyone to join me. I posted an interesting article about going dairy free for 21 days in the community section of the team. Friday, February 09, 2007, 6:35 PM

lose weight help hi am thinking of trying this because i put 1/2 stone on in 1 week so am going to cut out bread and dairy but does this actauly work Saturday, March 17, 2007, 5:16 AM

am intrested hi am intrested in joining in the challage to cut out dairy from my diet but will it work Saturday, March 17, 2007, 5:22 AM

I think you got it wrong! If you cut out low fiber bread a fatty dary products you will lose wieght. I have been hearing alot about hi fiber diet being healthy and helping you lose wieght. The same about dairy ! Got milk? Saturday, March 17, 2007, 11:00 AM

Wait a minute I thought it was diet soda we had to cut out Saturday, March 17, 2007, 11:02 AM

I havent had carbs for almost three mons I have lost over 13 pounds.... but cut out milk .. never I am giving up choc for a week and have had no bread. I need something. lol. I also drink skim milk so not as fattening and only hard cheeses.. nothing processed. it works for Me Saturday, March 17, 2007, 1:10 PM

I agree that you can cut out anything and lose weight. The question is, is that sustainable? Are you never going to eat bread or milk again for the rest of your life? Sure, if I do a no-carb diet I'll lose weight but as soon as I eat bread again I'll blow up. It's about changing your lifestyle so that you can lose weight and maintain that loss over time. Saturday, March 17, 2007, 2:34 PM

well I have a problem with alot of white flour with My system so when I do stop cutting I will eat like spelt breads and pastas. they are healthier and dont have all the starchy white flour. no I wont cut breads for life. I also know if I go back to reg breads potatoes and such I will gain the weight back, but now I really dont want the white starchy breads and pastas now, I have much more energy and Im walking and drinking My water and all arround feel better Saturday, March 17, 2007, 5:36 PM

Actually if you burn 500 more calories than you intake daily YOU WILL LOOSE WEIGHT no matter what you eat. Saturday, March 17, 2007, 7:28 PM

i wish people would stop trying to blame a particular food or food group for their inability to lose weight. it's not the food, it's the way / amount you eat. develop a little self-discipline and you can eat pretty much whatever you want, unless you have allergies. Monday, March 19, 2007, 9:42 AM

any time you replace low nutrient dense foods with high nutrient dense foods you will be more likely to lose weight and be healthier. Its not about not eating things, it is about eating things that fuel your body and make you full in a good way. Monday, August 27, 2007, 12:54 PM

Just wanted to make sure we're on the same page here - the best way to get calcium is actually from vegetables, no matter what the advertisements from the dairy industry tell you. That used to be considered fringe hippie talk, but it's gotten to be pretty accepted by mainstream researchers by now. For more, check out http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/206725/how_dairy_actually_causes_osteoporosis.html or http://www.makingpages.org/health/calcium.osteoporosis.html Monday, August 27, 2007, 1:00 PM

1pm is totally right- here is some info on how spinach helps your bones: Helping You Bone Up The vitamin K provided by spinach-almost 200% of the Daily Value in one cup of fresh spinach leaves and over 1000% of the Daily Value in one cup of boiled spinach (which contains about 6 times as much spinach)-is important for maintaining bone health. Vitamin K1 activates osteocalcin, the major non-collagen protein in bone. Osteocalcin anchors calcium molecules inside of the bone. Therefore, without enough vitamin K1, osteocalcin levels are inadequate, and bone mineralization is impaired. Spinach is also an excellent source of other bone-building nutrients including calcium and magnesium. Link Monday, August 27, 2007, 1:08 PM

I've eaten bread and dairy every day these last three months and lost 33 pounds. Monday, August 27, 2007, 1:48 PM

No offense people, but this is so silly. Isn't this supposed to be a lifestyle change? You shouldn't stave off bread and diary. Bread (if it's whole grain) is nutritious and diary provides you with calcium. I mean I'm only 21, but doesn't anyone think about the importance of calcium in a woman's diet for bone health for the future? Monday, August 27, 2007, 3:07 PM

3:07 That is a total myth that you need dairy for calcium. It is a good source, but spinach and other green nutrient dense foods are better sources. Many many countries around the world have radically lower levels of dairy consumption as well as lower levels of osteoporosis. Chinese and Japanese people consume very little dairy and they have very little osteoporosis. Monday, August 27, 2007, 3:12 PM

who is the anti-milk person posting these, and what is the obsession? Monday, August 27, 2007, 4:32 PM

A cup of spinach has 3% of the RDA for calcium. Yeah, great calcium source. Monday, August 27, 2007, 4:44 PM

3:07 poster here According to About.com, being of the equal amount, you only absorb 5% of the calcium in spinach versus 30% in milk. Link Monday, August 27, 2007, 6:05 PM

It's a little bit more complicated than just making sure you get enough of one food (spinach or dairy). Countries that have the highest intake of dairy also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. So if everyone in these countries is eating a lot of dairy why is this happening? Other things you eat plus lifestyle choices (smoking, etc.) can impact your bones. Just focusing on calcium itself is just part of the problem. This is an interesting article for anyone who is interested: http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougall/030400pudairyproductsfalsepromises.htm Monday, August 27, 2007, 8:59 PM

Cortisol There is also the fact of cortisol: the hormone called "stress hormone" wich is produced by the adrenal cortex. It is proven that cortisol allows us to keep those extra pounds on. They conducted a study where they took a group on vacation, where they were out of their routine, away from everyday stresses and being fed the same food as when at home they lost weight. So along with all the other rules to a healthy life, smaller portions, exercise, cutting back on what you are allergic to, SUGAR!, the best but not least is BE HAPPY and attempt a stress free life. Monday, May 18, 2009, 6:04 PM

yeah- you will, unless you replace it with coconut milk! I ruined my diet once this way and I've certainly hit that road bump again.... but it makes your skin look beautiful! Monday, May 18, 2009, 6:32 PM

To Monday, August 27, 2007, 3:07 PM Yes, people should be looking for a lifestyle change, but there are SO MANY PEOPLE looking for quick fixes. This appears to be another example of it. Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:53 PM

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