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can we drop the word...

i'd like to seriously request that posters discontinue referring to other posters as the spelling "Nazi" or thread "Nazi" or the like. if you wonder why i may take great offense to the belittlement of the word "Nazi", consider if you were a child of the only surviving memer of her entire family, who were killed slowly and savagely by "Nazi"s. yes, i am sensitive, but not TOO sensitive, just sensitive enough to understand the meaning and offensiveness of the term "Nazi". thank you for taking the time to read this.

Sat. Feb 17, 9:08am

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I for one have never used the work except in the way of refering to that political party or to Germany under the regime of that political party. I support the OPs request. We are intelligent people, and can find other ways to express what we mean. If we dilute what the word means, then we dilute what people went through, and we dilute our consciousness that it could happen again. I support this request which was given in a polite and respectful manner.
mariarose

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 9:16 AM

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While we are at it...

might as well drop, ghetto, gyp or jipped, white trash, trailor trash.

I think asking, even politely asking, it is too much to ask of people to drop any word, especially since many don't even know where the word derived from and it's true meaning.

White trash is used to describe a white person who lives like "trash" and ghetto used to describe a Black person in many negative ways. But I bet many don't realize, ghetto is the term used for the housing projects many Jews were forced to live in, how it was applied to urban Blacks is beyond me.



Saturday, February 17, 2007, 9:27 AM

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It originally did not apply to the blacks themselves but to the housing developments that so many were in. As the Jews were unable to leave the Ghettos in15th and 16th Century Italy, outside of certain circumstances, so were they unable to leave the Ghettos in Nazi Germany outside of certain circumstances.

Although urban blacks were not trapped in the ghettos in the same way, there certainly have been many, many barriers to rising to a better life, some of which must have seemed unsurmountable to many of them.
mariarose

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 10:19 AM

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Godwin's Law strikes again

See link below. The use of the word "Nazi" is inevitable.

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Saturday, February 17, 2007, 1:46 PM

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Incredibly interesting link, thank you for that.
It may or may not be inevitable, but I still think it is counterproductive to overuse it, and we are such an intelligent group of thinkers,writers, doers, that we can find some way to comply with the OP's respectfully stated request. I know it in my heart.
mariarose

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 1:54 PM

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OP, thanks for your post. I support you 100%.

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 2:50 PM

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Jerry Seinfeld really got the ball rolling with the whole "Soup Nazi" thing. After that, the cat was (Meow!!) out of the bag.

I'm not persuaded by your "i'm offended" plea. I am sick and tired of people prohibiting the use of language based on their belief that they are offended. It is how discourse, honest discourse, has come to a screeching halt in this country.

When is the last time someone spoke honestly about a subject like race in this country. Nobody, except a comedian like Dave Chappelle. Course he is black, so he is "allowed" to comment on the subject. His is also black and the "victim", and in this culture the victim owns the narrative.

I have had enough of the victims owning the narrative.

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 3:03 PM

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There is certainly some real meat to your point of view, 3:03. I have to say that I also am tired of victims being professional victims. I love open, honest discourse. But this is an issue where a word is being misused, and in being misused, is losing its value to honest discourse. It is also losing the impact it could have to stop an atrocity from ever happening again. I dare to speak my mind on many issues, certainly race relations also, and if someone has something to say that opens my eyes to something that I had not believed, or thought of. I gladly hear him or her. But I am uncertain that Soup Nazi, or Word Nazi, Or Dairy Nazi is open and honest discourse that will not destroy the horror that is behind the real word, Nazi
mariarose

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 3:26 PM

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I associate "Nazi" primarily with intolerance and unfounded superiority, and that is how it's used in our vernacular. Perhaps a more contemporary term would be "Soup Extremist" or "Dairy Fundamentalist", but they don't roll off the tongue as easily, and don't sound as clever. Besides, there are plenty of people who'd have an issue with that too.

Down with the Anti-"Nazi" Nazi, I say -- and enjoy the richness of our language under First Amendment while we still have it.

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 7:32 PM

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I work for Jewish people, and they and I use the word "nazi" once in a while. Words change their meaning over time. Accept it and move on.

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 9:27 PM

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