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Question about soup (and KateWeight)

I was reading Kate's weight loss tips (see below for link), and I read #12 No more soup: too fattening and too much sodium.

I was under the impression that most soups are a good healthy meal. I can understand the sodium concern, but can soup really be described as "too fattening"? Chicken noodle? Cream of [whatever vegetable]? I'm worried!


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Sat. Feb 17, 6:34pm

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This is "one size does not fit all" just like our underwear. There are many soups, not cream type soups, beef or chicken broth with veggies (non starchy veggies) that are EXCELLENT for the nonfattening soup, HOWEVER, there are many other soups, mainly the creamy types that ARE EXTREMELLY fattening.

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 7:24 PM

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I think that principle is half true. Commercial soups are lousy because they contain very little of the "good" stuff. Like the way Cream of Chicken is all cream and almost no chicken. Seriously, if you count the grams of protein on the can, it's about an ounce divided into 2-3 servings. And vegetable soups are, like, 80% starch.

I eat soup almost every day, but it's homemade. I buy into the concept that hot, solid food (soup) is more filling than cold liquid food (Slimfast). I eat it about 10-20 minutes before my meal so that by the time I finish eating, I'm starting to feel full. I'm not Kate, but I'm 40+ pounds down and still counting.

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 7:45 PM

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Don't freak out

It's me, Kate. I was just listing things briefly, so some of them may be a little vague. Let me clarify my position on soup:

1. Most (OK, all) of the soups I like are cream-based. My favorite is clam chowder, which I found out after I started working on losing weight can have almost 1000 calories in a serving - yikes!

2. Unless you're careful about looking at labels and choosing lower-sodium versions, you could consume almost 100% of your daily recommended sodium intake for the day on soup alone. And sodium makes you retain water, which will keep your weight up.

3. I have chronic high blood pressure, which is another reason I have had to cut soup out of my diet - even the lower-sodium versions have too much for me.

Thanks to the previous responders: you made excellent points. My "tips" are more for people who have no idea how to lose weight and who are just getting started; it's easier to say just cut out soup in the beginning than trying to go into so much detail. As you work at losing weight and educating yourself, then you'll figure out how to avoid the unhealthy soups.

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 11:11 PM

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Don't freak out

It's me, Kate. I was just listing things briefly, so some of them may be a little vague. Let me clarify my position on soup:

1. Most (OK, all) of the soups I like are cream-based. My favorite is clam chowder, which I found out after I started working on losing weight can have almost 1000 calories in a serving - yikes!

2. Unless you're careful about looking at labels and choosing lower-sodium versions, you could consume almost 100% of your daily recommended sodium intake for the day on soup alone. And sodium makes you retain water, which will keep your weight up.

3. I have chronic high blood pressure, which is another reason I have had to cut soup out of my diet - even the lower-sodium versions have too much for me.

Thanks to the previous responders: you made excellent points. My "tips" are more for people who have no idea how to lose weight and who are just getting started; it's easier to say just cut out soup in the beginning than trying to go into so much detail. As you work at losing weight and educating yourself, then you'll figure out how to avoid the unhealthy soups.

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 11:11 PM

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Whoa...deja vu... :-)

Kate

Saturday, February 17, 2007, 11:11 PM

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I eat soup most days, and am doing well with my weight loss. I'll have a can of Progresso (with the pop-top lid) for lunch at work often - just bring a bowl, and microwave. The can is usually 2.5 servings, but each serving is around 120 calories, so the whole can is around 300 cals, a good lunch. If I don't bring soup, my typical lunch is soup from Au Bon Pain. They have all of the nutritional information on their website, for both sizes they offer. Most of their soups fall into an okay calorie range (some are actually too low-cal; I'll be hungry afterwards. Others are too high-cal. But there's a good selection that's just right.)

The problem with soups is when they're eaten before a meal, as though they "don't count." They definitely count. Also, what you eat with them counts too. I used to buy a small piece of wheat baguette from Au Bon Pain to eat with the soup - until I found out that that small piece of baguette is around 250 calories!!

jilli10582

Sunday, February 18, 2007, 9:27 AM

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Uh, what about making soup at home? I make a big pot of soup almost every week and eat a portion every day until we finish it. I NEVER make soups with cream and rarely make soups with milk, but do make plain chicken soup, and tons of different kinds of vegetable soup. Now, my refrigerator contains homemade lentil-spinach soup made with about 1 tsp. oil, a large onion, lots of garlic and a bunch of spices. Last week was vegetable-barley soup. Next week, who knows? Oh yes, and I use no or very little salt but a lot of interesting spices.

Sunday, February 18, 2007, 3:43 PM

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Soup's one of my favorite things and I make big homemade batches all the time.
Chicken soup with homemade egg noodles...
Winter soup, a combination of sweet potatoes, carrots, parsnips, onion, and garlic...
Autumn soup, the basic hamburger pot...
Minestrone, crammed with good veggies...
Occasionally cream of broccoli (my boys' favorite) and clam chowder, made with milk...
Black bean soup...
Chicken tortilla soup...
Winter squash soup...

Friday, February 23, 2007, 12:16 AM

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Healthy Soups

For those of you that have a trader joe's near you, their brand name line of boxed soups are really good and quite healthy. They make a lot of their cream based soups with soy milk and personally I can't tell much of a taste difference. They have a lot of organic options and try to keep it low sodium. 1 cup of most of the soups I've tried from them are only 1 weight watchers point.

Friday, February 23, 2007, 8:41 AM

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