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Dog Fighting vs Deer Hunting

let me start by saying that dog fighting is totally cruel and only losers and lowlifes do that stuff. Same thing for people who own or raise pitbulls. Whats the point? On the other hand, I think there is a racial angle to this whole stigma. Deer hunting is totally legal and celebrated. And white people do it primarily. In both cases the animal dies in the end. What is the difference?

Thu. Aug 23, 3:34pm

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You are probably right to a certain extent. It seems that people in power go deer hunting in the US, at least that is my impression. Rich white guys. Also, deer hunting involves guns, which is a huge industry.

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 3:58 PM

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Purpose of deer hunting

I think your out in left field somewhere. Deer hunting is legal to control the deer poplulation, would you rather a deer get hit by a car, or shot for food. I personally would rather somebody shooting a deer take it to a slaughter house for eating rather than it get hit by a car and laid to rot on the side of the road while whoever hit it pays an arm and a leg for auto repairs. Dogs on the other hand when they are raised to fight are being tortured starved and are bread for killing and end up dying if they lose a fight sometimes. Some pitbulls can be domesticated and kept as a pet like any other dog, only the dog has to be treated right and fed well. Do you see the difference??

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:05 PM

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let's not forget deer are over populated by 300%. look up the facts, honey, of how many people hit deer every year and how much money goes out each year for medical and vehicle repairs because of the deer.

deer hunting also puts food on the table. Would you rather see them starve all winter long when it's too cold and they can't find food.

I am female, a hunter of deer and foul, and i also have a permit to carry. not happy that someone would imply they are the same. i have two dogs and i would NEVER kill them because I kill deer for food.

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:12 PM

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so is the issue dogs are a) not tasty and b) not running into our cars and damaging them?

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:16 PM

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We have to hunt the deer because we killed off all the wolves. We killed all the wolves because they were eating the cows and sheep.

So, now instead of hearing wolf howls at night, we hear the crunch of Deer vs. bumper.

This would be the law of unintended consequences.

In regards to deer hunting being similar to dog fighting, I gotta disagree. The point of deer hunting is to kill a deer, bring it home and eat it. Well, actually, to bring it to a processer who'll butcher it out for you and give you deer steaks, deer sausage, etc. Further, Deer hunting involves a whole bunch of sitting still in cold and usually wet woods, freezing your @$$ off hoping for the chance that one of these critters will walk close enough to you for you to get a clean shot.

You don't find too many people who hunt deer purely for sport- even the hunters who don't actually eat their deer usually donate them to charity (lots of poor families in Wisconsin eat a LOT of deer in the winter)

Sadly, Dog fighting is a lot closer to horse racing- the animals are doing all the work while the owners take all the profits.

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:24 PM

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i have to agree with those above. here in texas (and all over the u.s.) deer overpopulate every year. many people are killed and seriously harmed from hitting deer. they become a problem when they are so prevalent that they get on to major highways and hang out in people's front yards. this is the case in many places, such as austin. a collision with an adult deer at 65 miles per hour is very dangerous.

also, deer hunting is for food. most hunters hunt to feed a family, while some do it for sport. and there are plenty of poor people and people of different ethnicities who hunt deer. it is not only rich people. notice that when cheney went hunting he shot his own friend. leads me to believe he is not that skilled of a hunter.

race has nothing to do with this issue. i was attacked by a pit bull when walking my dog. when the owner finally came out to get his dog, his was a white man. hunting and dog fighting are very different, and people of all different races and socio economic groups do both.

now-- i propose that michael vick be dumped into a pit with 20 of the dogs that will have to be euthanized. i'd bet on him losing.

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:33 PM

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WHat's wrong with owning and raising a pitt bull? I own one, I got her from the shelter, she was rescued from a dog-fighting ring, since she was small, she was used as a bait dog to get the other dogs riled up. She is the sweetest thing in the world.

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:38 PM

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it is sad that pitts have a bad reputation. some are sweet, and some are raised to be vicious. i just think it is sad that all of the dogs will probably have to be euthanized because they have been trained to be fighters. that is too risky to adopt off.

irresponsible pet owners make me sick.

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:43 PM

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Abuse, in any form, just makes me sick. I know that I'm not perfect but something about pitting two animals (or more) together just to see them tear each other apart, makes me want to throw things, get sick, murder the abusers or maybe just cry. As a usually very kind & peace loving person, it is awful for me to be dreaming up all the ways I could make the animal abusers feel the same pain that they inflict. I'm just not sure how to apply my love of positive energy & healing/spiritual ideals to these situations.

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 4:46 PM

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Whoa! I don't even get how anyone equates dog-fighting with deer hunting. You EAT the deer after you've hunted it, but very few people in the U.S. eat dog. And if you're halfway decent as a hunter, the deer doesn't suffer, unlike the dogs. Deer is good lean meat, too. If you're going to eat meat, it's a heck of a lot more honest to kill and butcher your own than it is to pretend that meat grows in little styrofoam platters in the supermarket.

Also, I live in Oklahoma, and most of the people I know here who hunt are Native American. So where does this "only white people hunt," thing come from?

Also, addressing someone else's point, a lot of not-rich people hunt. A lot of rural people hunt for subsistence, because they need the food. That deer (or those deer, if the kids are old enough to have permits) goes into the deep freeze and gets et all winter.

Thursday, August 23, 2007, 6:28 PM

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