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should overweight people be held accountable?

someone asked this question on a thread about doctors, and it is a good question. I tend to think so!

Thu. Nov 8, 1:24pm

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well, i guess that depends. if you eat crap and have a terrible life style and overweight, then they are accountable, but for what?

if you have auto-immune diseases that cause you to be overweight, then no.

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 1:58 PM

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Would the same go for daredevils? I have a friend who has broken all kinds of bones over the years, some of them several times. His son is 14 and is a chip off the old block. Should they be held accountable for their medical bills?

I also have athletic friends who have gentler injuries (shoulder, wrist, ankle, knee problems etc.) that require some medical attention. Should they be held accountable? What about injuries sustained while woodworking or renovating without proper experience/protective gear?

And what about parents who knowingly have children even though they have inheritable disorders?

You'd think all the negatives involved with obesity would be motivation enough for someone to change. I doubt that more negativity would help.

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 2:24 PM

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I think so too OP, but they probably never will be.

Last poster you make great points. But I think the obesity epidemic is contributing to the high price in health care more than a few daredevil friends or athletes.
What percentage of America is overweight today...? I would guess it's higher than the injured athletes/daredevils...

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 3:51 PM

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Honest question: accountable for what? health care cost?

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 4:37 PM

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I thought I heard that in California they were talking about having an extra tax on soda because it contributes to obesity, which contributes to higher health care costs. Hilarious, but maybe....?

I don't know what it's like it the states, but here in Canada the government is making a big push in advertising to let people know the risks of being overweight, and really pushing healthy eating and active living. And our schools in Manitoba are now having to follow 'healthy eating' guidelines, offering healthier choices in schools. The result of this is that kids are selling black market pop out of their lockers and melted butter for their perogies!

Rambling...but the point is, lots of efforts are being made to encourage people to be healthier, but it's hard to force it on people.

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 4:50 PM

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Exactly, people know that what they are doing to their bodies by overeating, not exercising and eating foods with no nutrients... But they do it anyway. Isn't it obvious that being 50 pounds or more overweight is a health problem?!?! Do we really need to be spending more money "educating" people on what is already so obvious? And don't say it's not obvious, unless someone lives under a rock they know they shouldn't eat that 4th serving of fried chicken, they just CHOOSE to do it anyway.

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 5:12 PM

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devil's advocate, 5:12- I commute to work year round on my bike, and ride mountain bikes on the weekend. I also do some whitewater kayaking.

All of these things involve risk. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that I've got a pretty good chance of becoming injured or hospitalized doing what I do. My chances of getting injured or killed are probably equal to or greater than someone who's sedentary and overweight, certainly in the short term.

Should I have to pay more as well? I mean, I am definitely CHOOSING to participate in activities that make me more likely to get hurt...

Just a thought.

Now I gotta go ride my bike home in the dark.

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 6:36 PM

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intelligent dialoge. How refreshing!

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 8:59 PM

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I try so hard not to take offense to the thought that just because I ended up overeating to numb my pain that I should be held any more accountable that anyone else for their health situation.
I think it is the word Choose that bothers me most.
Yes I will admit that I know I am putting food into my body that is not healthy and there are times that I don't care. Or didn't. But it is so easy to look past what is happening to you healthwise and especially in light of how I am feeling emotionally.
So rather than DO drugs, or alcohol or premarital sex which all harm your body I DO food.
It is a huge and complex issue that has so much involved in it you just can't make some light decision about it.
But I am trying to make a difference in my life and see that I am worthy of life and a happy life at that. I am worthy of being treated like any other person. And I am working on my issues that have led me to the over eating in the first place. That is why I am here. Because I want more out of life and I am the only one who can change me.
But there are others who have not come to that point yet and for them, kindness is the best way to handle it. The more you point the finger the more guilt a person feels and the more guilt the more you need to numb the pain.
Time to start being loving and caring about the people we are connected to.
I will say too that I appreciate the understanding that extreme sports and such are just as great a risk.
Just my two cents

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 9:36 PM

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By the same argument, aren't smokers in even deeper shit?

Thursday, November 08, 2007, 10:01 PM

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