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Too big for the subway seat

I have a 20 minute commute and nothing irritates me more than when I see someone taking up a seat and a 1/2. Or, even worse, when you make yourself crouch so that you can fit into that 1/2 seat and you get grunts from the bigger person next to you, as if how dare you try to sit there. Same on planes. Being that big really puts a burden on everyone.

Thu. Nov 15, 9:26am

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I'm wondering if you're super-petite, OP. b/c the only time in my life that I haven't been too big for the subway seat was when I weighed 115 lbs. Now I weigh 135 (healthy weight for my height) and my shoulders always touch the person next to me. I have broad shoulders. I think the seats are designed to pack people in like cattle. The more people in the car, the less cars they need.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 9:41 AM

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OP: Just because this is a health site doesn't mean you should be bashing people who are heavy. What's the point?

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 10:11 AM

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OP. Have you ever wondered how they feel? and as 9;41 says, planes etc donĀ“t have what you could call very acomodating seating for anybody.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 10:21 AM

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OP, have you ever considered that the seats are getting smaller because they can fit more people on there and save on gas money, therefore, keeping your fair lower?

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 10:44 AM

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Let them argue with you, but I agree fully. I've had the on the plane situation. I am incredibly claustrophobic, and I was stuck in the middle seat in between a larger man and a woman about my size. The larger man was on the outside seat, and if I had to use the rest room or just to take a breath in order not to freak out about the cramped space, he would become pretty much infuriated that he had to stand up to let me out. Nevermind the fact that he had been in at least a quarter of my seat the whole flight. He's really lucky I didn't have a panic attack.

To be perfectly honest, they're putting a huge burden on themselves as well as everyone else. I used to be a fairly large girl (never two seats full, but enough to be unhealthy), and now I'm lighter and healthier. Much lighter and much healthier. Mind you, we don't know everyone's story, we don't know why they've accumulated so much weight (a health condition, medication, extreme stress, depression), but as human beings we were gifted with self-realization and the ability to take charge of our own health, mind, and bodies. People need to stand up and take responsibility for themselves.

I'm tired of people (in life and on this site) coddling the morbidly obese. I by no means think that we should be horrible to people that are overweight, but I don't see why they're off limits for ridicule when very thin people aren't. How many times have you seen "stick thin anorexic" or some other ridiculous thing on this site? Or how many times have you heard a friend say something about someone's LACK OF heft in public? No one ever becomes irate about that. But one little comment about people and their lack of fitting into a seat on a subway bus, and all hell breaks loose.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 10:50 AM

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I was stuck in the middle seat on a plane for 5 hours. The man to my left was of a healthy weight (I amost said 'normal' weight, but normal is unhealthy and large, now). The man to my right was obese. His thigh had to be touching my thigh the whole way home...and it was driving me crazy! I paid severl hundred dollars for my seat, and if he was going to be using a piece of it, I should have charged him! I, too, am claustrophobic and have panic attacks. I tried to keep myself as busy as possible (reading, listening to music, thinking about other things). It's not that I hate fat people. I don't. I just don't want them to infringe on my comfort and life. Everyone has the right to be anything they want, until it affects someone else in a negative way. I'm trying not to be too mean, but I have the same problem on the subway, too. If you sit down next to me and your arm is on my arm or your leg is on my leg (obese or not)...I'm going to freak out!.
...or at least move.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 11:19 AM

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Thank you 10:50. No, I am not super petite and I am certainly not complaining about my shoulders brushing someone else's shoulders. I am referring to 1/2 of the very large person's body being taking up their seat and 1/2 of another available seat. I understand being crowded. What irks me is having an entire 1/2 seat taken up for the sole purpose of accomodating an extra 100 pounds.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 11:51 AM

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10:50, so because you are no longer heavy, that gives you the right judge heavy people. Why do people always feel everyone is 100% responsible for their weight? What about those of us who have medical conditions for which we cannot control or there is no cure? Did you ever once put yourself in the shoes of the man next to you on the airplane. Can you imagine what he was thinking? He was just as frustrated with your ailment as you were with his.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 12:44 PM

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12:44, 10:50 pointed out the fact that we never know why someone is obese. BUT it didn't change the fact that that man was spilling over into her seat. I don't think anyone is judging the person for being obese per se, but judging them when their obesity begins to affect strangers around them.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 12:59 PM

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Oh, you're right, 12:44, I am just being completely insensitive by suggesting that people take responsibility for themselves.

I've personally never heard of an incurable/un-treatable medical condition that causes extreme weight issues that cannot in any way be resolved. Perhaps I'm just not up to date on that.

But really, how many obese people in the United States are obese because of uncontrollable health problems? Probably a small percentage in comparison to those that are obese because of unhealthy behaviors.

I guess I am a bit harsher on heavier people now that I am no longer heavy because I have been there and pulled myself out of it. In fact, many people in my life have had horrible illness-induced weight issues and pulled themselves out of it. My mother-in-law is a great example. She had cancer and diabetes, both of which had her at a borderline morbidly obese weight, and with diet changes and exercise, now has a healthy body and mind. She took responsibility for her issues and she's a better person for it.

Thursday, November 15, 2007, 1:11 PM

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