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I just started taking Alli today, I have about 5-7 lbs to lose.
I am so nervous about the "treatment effects" that I am totally watching my fat and calories...however, I'm confused about snacking. Obviously I want to eat low fat and low cal snacks, but do I need to watch the percentage of fat grams like I do when eating an actual meal?
I scoured the alli website for help but couldn't find it...
Sun. Dec 2, 3:04pm
You absolutely do! You cannot consume more than 15 grams of fat per meal so if you are incorporating snacks you need to make sure you are comprimising something else. I too am taking Alli and have been for just about a month. I had treatment effects just once, when we took my daughter out for her b-day dinner at a japanese place. Of course they added butter to the rice and veggies I was eating but I thought if I only ate a little bit I would be fine. NOT! But, it really wasn't that bad. Since then it's never happened again so if you're eating healthy food choices you'll be fine. I'm doing Extreme Fat Smash and actually finding it difficult to determine when I should be taking the Alli because there's not a whole lot of fat in the diet plan to begin with and you do need to have some fat in your diet to lose fat. Crazy as it sounds...
Sunday, December 02, 2007, 4:54 PM
Why would you take a pill? Why wouldn't you try to "watch your fat and calories" independent of a pill first and see if you lose the 5 - 7 pounds you want to lose?
Sunday, December 02, 2007, 5:08 PM
I don't understand the concept. Take a pill so you won't eat fatty foods. If you do eat fatty foods, the pill makes you get stomach cramps and have some serious "bathroom" issues. Yuck!!!
Why not just control what you eat without the threat of those side effects? It's YOU controlling your food choices and portions anyway. Do you really need the threat of those side effects to make the right choices?
Sunday, December 02, 2007, 5:49 PM
it sounds like good behavior modification to me
Sunday, December 02, 2007, 9:04 PM
Message to OP - if you put alli in the search criteria above, you'll find a few earlier threads about Alli discussed here in the past. Most ppl bash alli - so be warned.
Sunday, December 02, 2007, 9:55 PM
To 5:49 and others who disagree with it... sometimes you've done everything you can and the last pounds are the hardest to lose and you're not seeing any results. To get over the plateau the Alli helps because you can only decrease your calorie and fat intake so much before you are doing something unhealthy. I was down to around 900 calories a day, that's not healthy. so I pushed it up to 1200 but took the Alli and now it's finally working! When I did 1200 a day before there were no results. So... don't bash it until you're in the same boat or have tried to lose and simply can't because you've been reducing calories and working out for years so your body is accustomed to it!
Monday, December 03, 2007, 8:05 AM
5 to 7 pounds is not even a dress size. I wouldn't be taking a pill for that. I can understand someone taking Alli if they have 40+ but not 5 pounds. Maybe you can't get rid of the last 5 pounds because for some reason your body is at the healthy weight it wants to be at. Maybe you are just so close that you have stopped trying. Why not try upping your workout a tad and dropping a few 100 calories a day. I bet you will see a difference in a week or so.
Monday, December 03, 2007, 11:22 AM
I bet that along with eating healthy if you really exercised hard..as is CARDIO. You would've lost lost 5-7 pounds. Actually, I guarantee it! I'm a trainer and registered dietician. ALLI is for those who have a A LOT to lose, not for someone who's trying to lose those last few pounds. What you are doing is abusing your body. And too say that you've restricted your calories but didn't lose is an EXCUSE! Ofcourse you didn't lose, your body was on starvation mode and was desperately storing all your food intake. Just eat healthy and EXERCISE. I'm tired of all these excuses. You know what's going to happen once you stop taking ALLI right? Hello 7 pounds, nice to see you again! It's not about restricting it's about eating to fuel your body and exercise to shape it and lose the weight. Anything else, is an excuse. And if you keep making these excuses to justify your actions, you'll never get anywhere. I guarantee it...
Monday, December 03, 2007, 4:39 PM
Sorry, but I still disagree. I am the 8:05 poster and I have 10 to 15 to lose and it stopped completely. You say exercise? Can you say 45 to 65 mins each on the treadmill (interval uphill/running/jogging) both morning and evening and switching three days out to do kickboxing, Firm Workouts, and Billy Blanks Boot camp and still not losing weight? If this didn't work for me I was going to a Dr. to see if I had a thyroid problem! Yes, I did increase intensity and time and that still didn't work!
The overload on exercise may work for someone who has a lot to lose, that was me 8 years ago (lost close to 100 punds with NO pills) I didn't go on a diet, I made a MAJOR lifestyle change but never lost the last 20. I dropped 5 then it stopped for over 2 mos and I was working my butt off. Since I made those changes 8 years ago I have read every fitness journal and book out there to determine the RIGHT way to go about this and be healthy which I incorporate on a daily bais but I would bet I know just as much about exercise and nutrition as you do being a personal trainer with all of the research I've done. I realize Alli is for those who have a lot to lose, however, it is FDA approved and it is helping me. I'm sorry you disagree and have your opinion but what works for you may not be what works for everyone else.
Monday, December 03, 2007, 9:29 PM
WOW people are so annoying on PT.
I don't understand the desire to speak your mind on absolutely everything and to needlessly argue with people.
OBVIOUSLY I have been trying to lose the last 5-7 lbs for several months and it's just not melting away. I work out, eat fairly healthy, but I do snack quite a bit and the threat of treatment effects IS WORKING ON ME! If that's what it takes to help me modify my behavior, I'm all for it! Have had an incident yet and I feel pretty darn good!
You're right, 5-7 lbs isn't a dress size. I don't need to lose a dress size, I just want to look better in the size that I'm in.
And 4:39 Trainer/Dietician - don't be so assumptive...I DO EXERCISE, EVERY DAY IN SOME WAY. I RUN ABOUT 20-25 MILES A WEEK, CIRCUIT TRAIN, AND DO BIKRAM YOGA. IF THAT ISN'T EXERCISE THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS. BTW, IF YOU ARE A TRAINER, I WOULD RUN FROM YOU - CLEARLY YOU ARE AN IDIOT. WHAT F*CKING EXCUSES DO YOU THINK I'M MAKING??????
Sorry, but I just can't stand some of the ignorant people on here.
I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION AND PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO PUT ME DOWN OR QUESTION WHAT I'M DOING, WHY, AND TELLING ME I SHOULDN'T. WHY DON'T ALL OF YOU FAT A$$ES JUST STICK TO WHAT YOU KNOW AND DON'T OFFER YOUR OPINION LEFT AND RIGHT.
To those who kindly answered my question...thank you :)
Monday, December 03, 2007, 9:51 PM
Okay, you said you asked a question, right? Did you not expect to get some people who would offer their opinion? If you want to post on this community board you need to be open to people's opinions. I don't mean the people who are very rude but the people who were questioning why you need to lose those last 5 lbs. I personally agree. If you're eating well and exercising the amount you say you are, maybe your body knows what weight it should be at.
Monday, December 03, 2007, 10:10 PM
You know why you can't lose after intense training, because of over training. You body NEEDS rest, NEEDS the right amount of food and exercise. So what if it's FDA approved, so was phen phen! Congrats on losing those 100 lbs, that such an accomplishment...now work on the last few! You have to change it up and keep the body guessing or you're not going to lose those lbs. It's not easy BUT it's the only way to KEEP them off. And as for you being more knowledgable than me who has a Master in Physical therapy, am a dietician, train elite athletes and hold speeches around campuses around the country--WRONG. Doing your research doesn't necessarily mean you're knowledgable or have any of the correct information. There is soo much misinformation in those glossy magazines, and on the web. You cannot base your research on that. Do as you said. Go to the doctor check your thyroid, But I'll guarantee no Dr. will ever give someone who's needing to lose 10 lbs any magic pill. Medication is for those who truly are obese. You are harming your body. You think it's worth it for 10 lbs! Hope you don't need a colostomy bag at the age of 50 because you've disttoyed your insides (which I have seen on girls as young as 15-- they'll be needing them for the rest of their lives).
You are right though. I do not know why I bother. It's like a parent scolding a child. All adults here...just sad seeing you trying to justify your excuses.
Listen to yourself.... You can tell everyone how hard you've been working, eating this and that but you know...there's something else to it. It really is sad.
You want to lose weight...Let start a team, let's see exactly what you're eating. I mean EVERYTHING has to be logged. Let's see how hard you actually push yourself during these grueling sessions. If you've hit a plateau, we'll find it and fix it.
You know why, because no one just "cant lose those last pounds, no matter what they try". Ofcourse you can!!!!!! This is absolutely true, once the words " I can't" come out of someone's mouth or those damn excuses....it's already too late, you're doomed to fail.
Didn't want to badger you but you dont need that pill. That's all. There are better ways of doing it. No excuse, and it's stay off, unlike what happens with those magic pills...guaranteed.
Wishing everyone here all the best....
I'm done posting. I know people do what they want. But, I'll never not try to attempt to help someone for the better... Really good luck!
Monday, December 03, 2007, 11:19 PM
FAT A$$ES! Who's the won taking the diarriah pill? BTW, I'm 105 lbs and probably look better that you'll EVER look, regarding of all your training as obvious, it's not working for you! lol. Pathetic.
A for you calling that trainer, ignorant, that's not cool. You're being very defensive because you ARE making excuses. And it's about training hard it's about training Smart. Learn some of that and you won't have to worry about anal leakage!
Plus that trainer isn't ignorant and you dont need to RUN from him/her because she'll be running from you and all your kind. I bet they hear these sorry excuses all the time. Poor baby, works so hard and nothing. And then has the nerve to call others ofensive names to make you feel better. Not cool, grow up.
I do fitness and unlike others in my field, stuck to peer trainer to help other. You cant take the heat, do ask these questions. Just abandon this thread already.
You know once you get off your poopy pills, it'll all gonna come back. While those hear you called FAT A$$ES will lose the weight and look better than evr tah tah.
Oh. Dont worry about writing a nice little come back to me, I'm moving on loser.
Monday, December 03, 2007, 11:31 PM
If be here are so annoying, why to you bother?! Actually everyone would probably be better of as we do not need someone as insensitive as you calling us names.
I feel so srry for whatever groups you're in.
Monday, December 03, 2007, 11:38 PM
Just you own personal groups questions next time if you're going to conplain just because you didn't get the answers you sought after.
They'll probably be nicer to you, assuming you dont call them fat lards too.
Monday, December 03, 2007, 11:40 PM
Just ignore the last 3 posters OP - their obviously some middle school child - all the same person. I've seen this person on other threads ....just ignore.
Tuesday, December 04, 2007, 12:34 AM
Not a very good speller either
Tuesday, December 04, 2007, 12:38 AM
OP- I agree with you and ignore the comments from the uneducated/uninformed posters. ( I am not speaking about the personal trainer) who seems to know some but I'm sure NOT all nor has he/she seen every body type there is out there or know of all the roadblocks you could be facing. Do not even listen to those that are posting ignorant thoughts and don't be bullied into not posting intelligent questions again. If they don't like it, they don't have to read it.
best of luck to you... fellow Alli consumer!
Tuesday, December 04, 2007, 9:01 AM
I'm amazed that so many people bash alli but approve of other much much much more dangerous diet pills, you know the ones that make your heart race, make you sweat all day long, make you jittery, and basically make you crazy.
Alli works in the digestive track and if you use it properly, you won't get those undesireable effects, which I haven't had and I've lost about 3 lbs in 2 weeks.
Knowing that there is a risk of "treatment effects" definitely helps me stay on track and I don't mind it, all the more reason to eat healthier.
So, risking, shitting your pants or having cardiac arrest, I'll take the shit THANK YOU!
Tuesday, December 04, 2007, 10:05 AM
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