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Getting Fit: It's all about Attitude, Loving Yourself & Sharing With Others
If you have the attitude that you, your health and well being are much more important than whatever food is enticing you -- you'll make it.
If you love yourself enough to want to do waht will keep or get you healthy and fit -- you'll make it.
If you have a terrific support network of people who care about you and are interested in your efforts (yay PT!!) -- you'll make it.
Don't think of yourself on a diet. Diets don't work because your mind automatically interprets them as short term periods of deprivation to quickly lose weight. When the weight you want to lose is gone, you go back to eating what you considered to be your "normal". Then, of course, the weight creeps back on.
To really work, your "normal" has to change. Think about what you eat and ways to change each meal so that it's healthier. Start slow with small changes. They need to become part of your new lifestyle habits in order to really work. And habits take at least 3 weeks of consistency to really become a part of you. Begin by adding a serving of fruit to every breakfast. Then add a serving of vegetable to every lunch and dinner. For portion control, use salad plates instead of dinner plates. Instead of butter, dip your fresh baked bread into extra virgin olive oil. It's still a fat, so don't go overboard. But it's a much better fat with lots of health benefits. Don't buy anything that has high fructose corn syrup or hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated oils in it. Try not to buy pre-packaged processed foods; they have very little nutritional value and lots of totally unnatural ingredients that are detrimental to your health and well being. There are other options without those unnatural fat magnets in them. If you have a natural foods co-op or health food store nearby, check out the labels on all their condiments, salad dressings, nut butters, etc.
Don't think of yourself as "losing weight". You are making lifestyle changes that will result in "GETTING RID OF excess weight". LOSING implies it could possibly be FOUND (GFB!!). The term "losing weight" sets off all kinds of alarms in my brain. GETTING RID OF implies it's GONE. No implication at all that it could come back. And while you're at it, as soon as your clothes are too big to wear anymore, GET RID OF THEM! Give them away, sell them, toss them -- do whatever it takes to ensure they aren't waiting to be worn by you again.
And join some really active PT groups and teams so you can have the friendship and moral support of others who are like you, going through the same things as you, and support you every step of the way. I'm in 2 absolutely awesome groups and an outstanding team of wonderful, caring people. It makes all the difference in the world.
Check out my team in the spotlight.
Thu. Dec 20, 9:57am
I've looked at your logs and you seem to eat only healthy stuff. Are you listing everything you eat? I mean where 's the pizza, chocolate, cake, sodas and stuff? Nobody can eat that perfect for that long. Are you for real?
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 1:11 PM
1:11 I think you're being mean. I looked over her logs for a few months and she eats chocolate sometimes. She even eats Arby's sanwiches sometimes. Nobody is perfect. I believe this lady is for real. Did you look at any other part of her profile? She is awesome! With all the things she has holding her back that aren't within her control, she's done an amazing job. Did you see where she says the doctors told her she'd only get worse and should move to a nursing home? This lady is walking around now! She lost more than 50 pounds and 4 or 5 dress sizes. Don't make lightof all her efforts, especially when she's only trying to help others. Workingit, you go girl!!!
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 1:55 PM
I think the 1:11 poster is just curious. Sometimes I do wonder about some people's logs... they seem to be eating sensibly but on their weight loss... it does not seem to be budging. I am not talking about workinit... coz you are right she has lost 50 lbs. I am talking about the people who have been PT on a yr, and have only lost less than 20 lbs...
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 2:09 PM
i can't stand when people believe just because they lost 50 pounds this way, EVERYONE should be able to do it. PLEASE!
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 2:36 PM
Well PP everyone should be able to take control of what goes in their mouth and how they move their body. I don't think workinit is trying to say everybody can lose 50 lbs because she did. I think she's saying everybody can be sucessful at changing their life by changing their habits if they care about themselves enough to work at eating the right things in the right amounts and have others who are supportive cheering them on. I agree with this. She sure as heck didn't say it's easy. Look at her logs and her notes and you'll see it wasn't anywhere near easy for her to get where she is today. She didn't just drop the 50 lbs. She struggled with it a few ounces at a time. And you'll also see she has a heck of a long way to go before she's done. I for one am behind her all the way. She's my inspiration. I'm not disabled and I don't have anywhere near as much weight to "get rid of" as she says. So I really ought to be able to make it if she can.
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 4:45 PM
workinit - you're a huge motivation for me! Whenever I feel like quitting 10 minutes into my workout I think of you and remember how lucky I am to be ABLE to run or kickbox or spin or whatever, and I finish my workout joyfully. You inspire me to work at my full potential just like you do everyday.
your Spotlight buddy,
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 4:47 PM
I'm the 1:11 poster and I was not trying to be mean. As someone said, I'm just really curious to know if those logs tell the whole story. Because I couldn't do it eating the way listed in those logs. I'd be really hungry and cranky. Gotta have my pizza, lasagna, cheeseburgers, tater tots, fritoes & taco chips, cookies, ice cream, chocolate (sometimes, not every day).
If this is really it, accurate logs. Then power to you lady! You're much stronger than I am willpower-wise. I'll be watching your weekly weigh ins to see how they match up to your food logs. Maybe I can try to eat somewhat like you do if it's really working for you.
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 5:01 PM
I second the motion about making the habits consistent so they stick. And adding veggies. Eat a salad with whatever else you have. Or add veggies to anything! iI love zuchini , carrot slices, and summer squash in spaghetti, or you can add a handful of spinach, tomato, or broccoli to most pasta dishes. Also, v8 is a great way to get in more veggies, if you like the taste. Drink it or use it to make soup.
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 5:05 PM
Oh yea and I also agree about getting rid of the clothes that are too big. Right away as soon as they don't fit. If you don't keep the fat clothes maybe you won't get fat again.
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 5:18 PM
I'm the OP (workinit) and I'd like to address the questions. Yes, my logs are accurate. I list everything I eat and everything I consider exercise. Some may not consider my physical activity to be exercise, but in my special situation it is.
Some of those foods that were mentioned by the poster who wouldn't be happy without them aren't foods that even appeal to me. So I don't miss them. We are all different. Everybody has different tastes for different foods. Sweets have never had a hold on me, and I don't care for much meat or too often. I do like lasagna and pizza, but only every few months or so. They aren't foods I think about much. So please don't try to compare yourself to me. All I'm suggesting is that you make changes to your lifestyle that work for you, and that you do it slowly so they become a part of you. If those are foods you love and wouldn't be happy without, then definitely don't give them up. I never suggested that anybody give up foods that they love, whether they're considered healthy or not. But some of those unhealthy ingredients should definitely be axed. You can still eat the foods you love if you're careful about ingredients and more in control of portion size and how often you choose to eat them. Nothing works if you feel deprived in any way.
And I'm certainly not trying to set myself up as an example for anyone to follow. I still have a long way to go myself. Just sharing helpful hints and tips with the hope that it will be of benefit to others.
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 5:44 PM
1:11 - are you losing weight? If you are - fantastic! It seems like it would be much harder when you have the mindset that you gotta have cheeseburgers, pizza, etc. Of course, even as I type this I think about how I LOVE pizza - I just make sure I only have one piece now instead of 3-4+!! And even though it doesn't always feel like it - every single thing we eat is a decision.
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 6:06 PM
hugzzzzzzzzz worikn it.. you are a true inspiration to me sweetness. I agree about those foods not interesting me for the most part.. I went shopping the other day with my bro . I haven't got my first paycheck yet and he was shopping a bit and bought a doughnut.. he offered me one.. I said no thanks.. he looked at me and smiled and said do you want a apple. I said yes!.. its a inside joke I prefer fruits as my sweets.. not saying I dont have sweets I do, but in moderation. I dont need a fix everyday, but thats me..
we are each different.. we each have different goals.I am not saying I am a example to live by either, but I log every bite I eat. even tasting of cooking.. I log that too. its every bite counts . it keeps me on track and keeps me accoutable.
I dont think its a contest or a race about who has lost the most or how fast they have lost it. I know for me its been a long journey. as I am sure its been a long hard road for alot of you.. some may have lost easily and others may have struggled..
but its how we approach things. we have to make changes. we cant eat everything in site or fill up on junk food and expect to lose the weight. we have to eat responsibly and make wise choices.
Im not saying we cant have things and indulge now and than I do.. were human, but we cant make excuses either.. this is how I deal with my journey and how I have accomplished my weight loss andmaintained it.
there are days I want to eat everything in site, but I stop and think will that get me anywhere? do I really need that? why do I want that? I think we need to think before we eat. because my rule of thumb is you bite it you write it. I log everything.. good or bad.
now exercise.. there is some days I love to do it and others days its like pulling teeth, but I know its a necessary part of my journey to be healthy and fit.
I also want to be as sexy and beautiful for my husband as I can be, but ultimately this journey is for me.
I am not making judgements or saying I know everything I don't, but I think we all can share with each other and learn from each other..
well I have been on here long enough its time to drink some water and exercise a bit ore before bed later..
have a great night and keep believing in yourself..
workin it .. Im right beside you girl all the way.. you continue to inspire me .. hugzzzzzzzzz
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 6:07 PM
6:07 here.. I agree with this not being a diet its a way of life.. also I agree its not lost its getting rid of. I love that phrase. gone forever. we can and will do this..
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 6:11 PM
I can't help myself, I have to point out that we ARE on diets. Yes, we are trying to change our eating and exercising habits for life. But there is no escaping the fact that we are trying to consume less calories than we expend to lose weight.
Once we hit goal, we will switch to trying to balance expended energy vs consumption. Not all that easy either. So while I love the task of giving away clothes that have become grossly too big, I would advise everyone to keep at least some jeans one size up, (a few other items if you have room).
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 8:33 PM
the "diet" mentality
Lynneta and workinit - meeting you two through PT has made it worth it for me. thanks for your continued words of wisdom .... You people, who practice what you preach... are makin it... doing it... are true examples of how we can change our mindsets to accomplish our goals. I, too, have lost a lot of weight through this lifestyle change, healthier eating combined with exercise ... and I will say the the pp that those consider this a "diet" are the peole who really struggle with themselves. I WANT to eat like this everyday, i LOVE how it makes me feel. I NEVER want to go back to eating the way I did before. I am NOT on a diet. but I have an eating plan that I love and can live with for the rest of my life. I indulge if I REALLY want it, I've eliminated eating things that are just OK. Even when I hit maintenance - 10 lba away - I wont eat more. i dont need to. I eat whatever I WANT. I just dont WANT everything like I did before.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 2:36 AM
I'm the 2:36 poster.
Do you honestly believe that EVERYONE loses weight by counting calories, eating healthy, and exercising? Are you that shallow to believe those are the factors that make EVERYONE fat?
Friday, December 21, 2007, 10:06 AM
that way should work for most people. please enlighten us "shallow" people about what others ways to do it!
Friday, December 21, 2007, 10:48 AM
Yes, please do enlighten us if there is another way other than short of getting liposuction. Let's face it, if you are not losing weight by exercising, counting calories or eating healthy then: a. You probably are already at your healthy weight and you are trying to be Nicole Richie thin, or b. You are really not doing everything you know you should be doing to lose the weight. I for one did not record my food at first so I know I was eating more than I should have then once I started being vigilant about recording my food consumption and also exercising daliy... my clothes started to become loose. In fact I lost a dress size in 1 month!
Friday, December 21, 2007, 10:56 AM
no, everyone is different and they have to find what works for them. that's what workinit said. some people can lose weight by eating brownies and lasagna and pizza. They have one piece when they really want it. They just don't want it all the time. Or if they do, they restrain themselves from eating it all the time. Nowhere did I see workint say anything about counting calories. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't even think she does that. It doesn't look like she counts points either. I don't even see where she measures or weighs her food. The way she eats looks really easy to me. Though some of the stuff she eats isn't to my liking, and some of the things I really like she doesn't eat at all. It looks to me like she buys basic stuff and cooks from scratch. It looks like anybody could do this with whatever foods they like. Just decide what you want to eat, add at least one fruit or vegetable, and adjust the ingredients so you don't have the high fructose or hydrogenated fat. How is that hard? Unless you are addicted to the stuff in processed foods. Or have no self control or willpower. Then you have to work on those things first. That's a whole other story.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 10:59 AM
I'm 12/21 10:59 am. I should have said I'm addressing this to 12/21 10:06 am. It looks like a couple other people were posting the same time I was writing mine.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:03 AM
10:48 and 10:56
you need to understand what you are reading. I specifically said "those are the only factors that makes EVERYONE fat?" I didn't say anything about how to lose it!
Here's a great website for you to check out MEDICAL reasons for why people may be obese, not just because they don't eat right and don't exercise. Why does everyone believe these are the ONLY reasons for which people are fat! It's just not true! I have suffered hypo thyroid and hashimoto's disease for years. I have been on a strict 1000 cal diet every day and i can't lose weight through diet and exercise due to medical conditions. I pray this website enlightens the community that not everyone is fat because they don't exercise and eat like animals.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:07 AM
Well then if it is impossible for you to lose weight then why bother?
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:22 AM
Let's be realistic - obesity hasn't skyrocketed b/c there's this growing number of people with medical based obesity. Of course, there are some people with medical reasons behind their weight, but the overwhelming majority of people are obese b/c they eat too much and they move too little. This website and forum is geared toward people making changes in those departments. If I have a medical reason for being overweight - I'm not hanging out here with people who will find success counting calories or points, changing the foods they eat and exercising.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:22 AM
Besides, if you post something that is not very clear, that does not make people shallow. Try reading Websters....
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:23 AM
Definitiion of Shallow:
lacking depth of intellect or knowledge; concerned only with what is obvious; "shallow people"; "his arguments seemed shallow and tedious"
Wow... that means people who did not read the post correctly are stupid? Come on!
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:25 AM
"Do you honestly believe that EVERYONE loses weight by counting calories, eating healthy, and exercising? Are you that shallow to believe those are the factors that make EVERYONE fat?"
WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET OTHER WAYS TO LOSE WEIGHT OUT OF THAT! IT SPECIFICALLY STATES FACTORS FOR OBESITY!
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:29 AM
and by the way, i know what shallow means, but i'm glad you figured it out. The word shallow is lack of knowledge, which is exactly what i said. there's a lack of knowledge that medical conditions do count for a small percentage of the obese population. i didn't say everyone had medical conditions that make them obese. I said "not everyone is fat because they eat like an animal and don't exercise."
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:34 AM
Wow, you must be a bitter fat person.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:41 AM
no, actually, i'm not fat, not even obese, bmi of 24. but, once again, your "lack of knowledge" has shown through. you're now assuming i'm fat. talk about narrow minded.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:57 AM
Then why the hell are you even here?
Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:58 AM
Sheesh... Somebody thinks they are better than everyone else.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 12:00 PM
I bet the person who acts as if they are smarter than everyone else has a Ph.D.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 12:01 PM
Stop with the negativity already. Missing the whole point of this thread.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 12:02 PM
PP you are right... let's get back on topic. Workinit... thanks for all the kind words and advice. Its people like you who make this whole PT experience truly enjoyable!
Friday, December 21, 2007, 12:03 PM
well, let me educate you again.
the way peertrainer works is like this: there are communities set up based on teams or groups. Those members in specific teams or groups are separated based on their needs. Some have more than 100 pounds to lose, some have 5, some are runners (can't tell me they're here because they don't get enough exercise and eat like a pig), some do weight watchers, some are gender or ethnic specific, and some want to maintain. And here's why I'm here (why i feel the need to explain this is beyond me!) some groups are actually for people with medical conditions such as food allergies, thyroid allergies, RE, etc. Peertrainer isn't for everyone looking to lose weight. it's also for those people who would like help from other members going through the same thing they are going through.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 12:11 PM
My goodness, this has really gone in a direction far from what I intended when I started it. Can we please at least be polite, respectful and civil to eachother? Some of the comments are very heated and angry and it makes me sad to know this is how my initial thought of helping people has ended up.
I have SEVERE medical conditions (not one, MANY) that caused my obesity. Yes, I was overweight before I became disabled and medically challenged. But the morbid obesity was caused by the medical conditions and treatments, and my inability to function physically for a number of years. It's a constant struggle to try to figure out what's going to work for me each week, based on what I eat, how I can or can't move my body from day to day, and what my medical constraints are. But I'm determined, motivated and positive in my outlook for a better future, with me llooking and feeling better. And LIVING instead of possibly dying from complications of obesity on top of my life altering (and sometimes life threatening) medical conditions.
What I want to be able to pass on is that positive feeling, the motivation and determination, so I can help someone else. Offer moral support. Let them know it's possible with the right attitude and actions to change your life. Maybe then fewer people will give up.
Please don't belittle or negate my efforts by sniping at each other and being mean and nasty to each other. That's not the PT way, either. PT is awesome and I hope you'll all find the good in it as I have. That you'll meet some wonderful people in your groups and teams that uplift you and make you feel special and worth it.
Hoping you all are able to find the positive in yourselves, ignore the negative in others, and make the changes that add joy to your lives. Life is much too short to NOT find and appreciate that joy.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 12:44 PM
well to be honest ou can lose weight without counting calories .. I just watch portions. I would go nuts if I had to count every calorie I put in my body,but each of us is unique just like each of our journeys is unique.
Im alot like workinit. I love to cook from scratch.. I am not one for much of brecooked foods. I grew up with m mother showing me how to cook since I was about four. I would dtand and help here make my own frech toast and simple things.. it instilled the love of cooking into me.
now I makre healthier versions of all the foods.. f course I indulge now and than we all need to, but all those sweets and things just dont appeal to me as much anymore. I love the taste of fresh fruit.
I think you can cook and eat healthy and enjoy good food. tr new things be creative. I love trying a new vegetable or fruit and finding heathy recipes to make with it.. its like a adventure to me.
Im amessy cook because most everything I make from scratch. I like my own lasagnas when I have it, but I love like eggplant lasagna. made baked not fried.
I use oil and butter as little as possible. I do love my olive oil so I get my good fats in just not the bad ones.
I agree I am NOT on a diet.. this is a way of life for me. this is what I enjoy doing and how I enjoy eating. itgs healthy and tastes good.
the first word in diet is DIE.. and if you think of what your doing as a diet and not a lifestyle chnage. this is my experience so dont get all uptight I am not saying this is how you should feel, but 1 I feel like Im dying. 2. I struggle with foods more 3. I would probably give up .
I do not agree about keeping clothes that you cant wear.. once I get rid of weight I will not have the mentality I will hold onto a size in case I gain some back.. sorry , but to me that way of thinking is unacceptale. I have kept off my weight for 6 years and I dont plan on ever finding it on my body again.
I have 34 pounds left to lose. I do it slow and steady and I eat sensibly. I do NOT deprive myself of anything. I eat what I want when I want it, but like workin it said I just dont really want it that much anymore.
I work at panera.. I go in every day.. I have only tasted one thing.. I worked at thorntons in the uk a choc shop.. very nice chocolates, but I prefer when I have choc I like my dark 72% choc
I am not saying I wont have pizza.. because I do.. I also enjoy chinese food, but you wont see these foods everyday in my logs. like I said yes I do log every bite.
I have to .. logging makes me accountable to what I stick in my mouth because I think do I want to have to log this on pt. if the answer is yes I am safe eating it.. if I cant say yes right away I stop and think do I really want this.. do I really need this? just afew questions that keep me in check.
there is no sense in arguing about this thread.. we all have our own thoughts and opinions, but once you wrap your head arround the mindset of eating healthy.. trust me you wont go back to all the JUNK and your body will love you for it..
we all can do this!
Friday, December 21, 2007, 12:44 PM
I agree. This post was supposed to be positive. I think it is sad when people belittle other people's opinions and imply they are uneducated. Let's all be positive like workinit
Friday, December 21, 2007, 2:07 PM
I second that.. she rocks
Friday, December 21, 2007, 2:50 PM
Workinit you're right, and it is so comforting to know that others are going through the same type of things I am. Thanks for being there!
Friday, December 21, 2007, 4:50 PM
this is a bunch of pollyanna stuff, all looking thru rose colored glasses -- real people aren't like this are you on drugs or something? get real not everybody can lose weight no matter what they do. stop trying to "help" us.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 5:43 PM
Let''s cease to engage Debbie Downer. We need not let one person derail a positive, supportive thread.
Friday, December 21, 2007, 7:29 PM
I love the concept of “getting rid of”excess weight . . . .that positive thinking is helping me on my life journey.
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 12:25 AM
If we all could think the way workin it does then we *COULD* make it happen. If you're an average healthy person except you have excess weight you are very lucky. Look at what she has to deal with! And then look at how *POSITIVE* and *UPBEAT* she is. Even when she gained some, she was right back on track. And look how she works hard to make sure she walks every day. If you *CAN* walk like a normal person, you *SHOULD* walk at least a mile or 3 or 4 every day. This lady is talking about trying` to walk *WITHOUT* her usual walker or cane so she can get the best exercise that's possible for her. Geez Louise folks! Get a grip on reality!
When you see someone who is doing this much with so many problems and her only thought is *TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE* , then for goodness sake see it for what it is: *REAL INSPIRATION*
I'm with you workin it, all the way! Thanks for being here for me and everybody else. Even those ones who don't want to be helped and don't appreciate what you are doing.
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 10:45 AM
Checked out your log/profile in the spotlight
Workinit I checked out the spotlight yesterday and saw you and Lynneta and Peri and Jeb (and others who I have just not gotten to know yet). All of you are an inspiration! Your logs really impressed me Workinit!
Personally I like to don the rose colored glasses. Much better than the opposite!
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 11:18 AM
workinit Thanks for the motivation in the opening post. I printed it out and am using it for my frig art today!
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 1:21 PM
There's always somebody who thinks they know everything there is to know about everything. I've been on every diet there is known to man and now I'm 40 lbs more than when I first started to diet. It;s all a hoax. There is no real way to lose weight. Face it, if your fat your just going to be fat forever. Why bother trying to tell us how you did it when it's not going to work for anybody else. I'm tired of all you holier than thou people starting a thread by telling everybody else what to do. Who do you think you are anyway?
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 2:23 PM
Just ignore the negative comments... just people who need the attention they are not getting from home.
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 2:38 PM
To the 2:23 poster
Wow. I say this without sarcasm, I wish there was something I could do to send you some hope.
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 2:40 PM
"Face it, if your fat your just going to be fat forever."
I am so terribly sorry you feel this way, but I have to differ with you. If I thought that statement was true, it definitely would be true for me because I'd have no motivation to work at making changes.
"Why bother trying to tell us how you did it when it's not going to work for anybody else. I'm tired of all you holier than thou people starting a thread by telling everybody else what to do."
My only thought was to help by offering other people some positive thoughts and ideas that I know work. Not just for me but for a lot of people I've talked with. I certainly don't think I'm "holier" than anybody and I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do. Just offering moral support and motivation to those who may need it and would hopefully appreciate it.
"Who do you think you are anyway?"
Nobody really. Just someone who has the determination to beat the odds against me and prove the doctors wrong. Someone who wants to LIVE, and BE HEALTHY. Not agree with the doctors that I'm so ill and disabled that I should just rest in bed all the time and hire a caregiver, or move into a long term assisted living/nursing care facility. Someone who wants to WALK, and maybe someday even RUN. That's something I do in my dreams at night while I'm sleeping. Maybe it's a memory replaying from when I was young, because my hair is long and in a ponytail bouncing around on my back while I run down the sidewalk of a tree lined street in the dappled sunlight of a warm Georgia April day. I'm someone who wants to DANCE, and RIDE A BIKE, and SWIM. All the things most able people take for granted, and don't want to do.
If you were trying to make me feel bad, or make me cry, you almost succeeded. However, I only feel bad for you, that you are so set in your belief that nothing will work so you don't even want to try. All I can offer is sympathy, and I'm sure you don't want that...
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 5:50 PM
workinit, I love you. I wish I could know you in real life. Thank you for being on PT and sharing your attitude with the rest of us.
Saturday, December 22, 2007, 6:03 PM
2:23 poster, Please don't give up! You can improve your weight and health. Have you thought about trying the plans that focus on behavior changes instead of "dieting". For example the Beck diet solution or Intuitive eating? They both work on behavior modification so that we make long lasting changes in what our normal is and the health and weight follow. What ever you think will help you, just don't give up!
I was a discouraged as you are now when I first started reading this site. I didn't even participate for a long time. But finding and reading positive thing about change helped me to have hope and be able to try again.
Good luck and a big hug.
Monday, December 24, 2007, 7:05 PM
"I can't help myself, I have to point out that we ARE on diets."
Well I am not on a diet. I am making lifestyle changes that include different food choices and happily result in some excess weight leaving me.
"Once we hit goal, we will switch to trying to balance expended energy vs consumption."
Not me. When I finally get to my goal weight, I will be eating better foods in better combinations with each other, and in smaller portions than I was once used to eating. Why would I eat larger quantities just because I've gotten rid of some weight. That's going backwards and it most definitely will result in putting weight back on. Not on this body; never again!
"...while I love the task of giving away clothes that have become grossly too big, I would advise everyone to keep at least some jeans one size up, (a few other items if you have room). "
I wouldn't recommend saving anything at all that's even one size larger. It changes your mindset to believing that you will gain weight and need those larger clothes. My mindset is that I will never be that size again. At this age there's no chance I'll get pregnant again, so there really is no chance I'll be larger than I am at this moment as long as I have a breath left in my body and a mind that can think. I have a picture of myself at my largest and I had a picture taken of myself 40 lbs down, holding up a pair of my largest pants ever. That's enough of a memory, or of a motivation to continue. And if I happen to gain a lb or 2, I get right back to the new life plan with a veracity. Take a look at my weigh-ins over the past 15 months and you'll see that.
This is not easy and I'm not trying to fool anyone into thinking it is. But it's necessary. And it can only be successful if you believe. If you have the slightest doubt, you won't follow through with the dedication that is required. How can you not be dedicated to yourself and to making your own life better?
Hugs and Happy Holidays,
Tuesday, December 25, 2007, 10:05 AM
workinit - I share in your dedication and I believe in every word you wrote. I have let go of 56 lbs so far and its been a lifestyle change for me. I've lost weight many times before to just gain it back plus more. This time its different. I will never allow myself to gain it back. I just won't and I live by the words you spoke about. You are an inspiration and example that it CAN be done - regardless of what others may think. Its all about commitment, dedication and a strong desire to succeed and change. Thanks for sharing your wonderful wisdom. I wish you were in one of my groups!
Tuesday, December 25, 2007, 2:44 PM
Then why don't you start a team for everyone who loves workinit to join? Teams can have way more than 4 people. Some have more than 100. That way everybody who enjoys her hints and tips can get them.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 1:18 PM
AMEN! I am the one who first started the argument that not everyone is fat because they eat like pigs and don't exercise. that assumtion makes an ass out of u and umpion. and then being attacked for saying what i feel.
There's one thing I do want to point out to workinit. there's a difference between medical conditions that MAKE people fat versus FAT making people have medical conditions. it sounds like your weight contributed to your medical conditions. I, on the other hand, have medical conditions that make me fat. I'm on a strict diet just to maintain my weight. there's a difference.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 1:39 PM
so, because you believe "And it can only be successful if you believe" worked for you, that's supposed to work for everyone else? again, sometimes people aren't fat because they don't believe!
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 1:40 PM
listen, she can insire people by saying what worked for her (and the other 99% of the population that don't have medical conditions that MADE them fat).
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 1:47 PM
she sure can because i can say my opinion as well. but quit assuming that "believing you can do it" works for everyone.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 2:38 PM
This is an important point of the Beck Solution. Judith Beck found (20 years experience and world renowned cognitive therapist) that many people could not believe they could actually lose weight and keep it off. One of the chapters (days) in her book deals with this. GIVE YOURSELF CREDIT for every tiny change, pretty soon you start to believe you can and you can. There are lots of other facets to address but this one is a primary one.
It is up to the reader to decide weather the post "fits" or doesn't fit their life. There would be no one posting at all if they had to qualify everything they wrote with a disclaimer.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 3:08 PM
"Getting Fit: It's all about Attitude, Loving Yourself & Sharing With Others" is not a factual statement. It's not ALL about attitude, loving yourself and sharing with others. If that were true, everyone who read Beck's would be thin. If it were that easy, the whole world would be thin because they just have to set their mind to believe they can do it!
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 3:40 PM
Just getting started
Hey guys my name is Brittany and I really need some help and motivation to get started (a little encouragement) losing weight. I had a baby about 9 months ago and I really have blown up like a balloon, my ultimate goal is to lose 80 lbs. And everytime I've started to lose weight I always make excuses to not work out or eat right! Can someone help me?
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 5:47 PM
This is exactly what workinit is trying to do. help people like you. Please read everything she posted here because it's all good tips to get you in the right direction.
For those who refuse to think positive and just want to blast negative comments all over this thread, why don't you start your own thread and let this one be just to help people and offer support. We'd really appreciate if you'd do that and then you can do whatever you want in your own thread.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 7:20 PM
It is always good to see ALL the different ideas that people have. We learn both from misunderstandings, and understandings. When someone reacts strongly to something it is a good way to rethink everything carefully. If the original statements hold true they will survive the attach and even become more clear.
For me personally, "It's all about Attitude, Loving Yourself & Sharing With Others" has a ring of truth to it and I continue to see when I make healthy choices it is about loving myself. I also see that sharing with others keeps the understanding alive within.
There are so many messages coming at us all the time in the media that are so unhealthy that I appreciate someone taking the time to share this message.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 8:31 PM
Yes me too pp. I do so appreciate the fact that someone took the time to put into words how important it is to care about yourself and do the best you can for yourself. Also to believe that you can succeed.
Success can be defined diffeently by different people. But I also believe that if you give it your best effort and believe that you can do it, you surely will. Think about when doctors tell patients they are dying and they only have a few months left. The ones who think "oh my god I'm dying" are the ones who die the quickest. The ones who think "hmmm, the doc says I'm dying but I'm going to prove him wrong" are the ones who live the longest. Sometimes they die anyway because they have a terminal illness and not everybody can be saved just becaue they don't want to die. But they do live longer and have a better quality of life because they believe in themselves.
Ok nobody here is dying but try to make that connection with getting fit and healthy. The ones who think they can't do it and will always be fat and flabby, guess what? They will. It's called self fulfilling prophecy. I am fat, I think I'll always be fat. So of course I will always be fat because I won't do anything about it. The ones who are motivated and determined to make changes will be successful because they work hard at making the changes become a part of their every day routine. Maybe they won't drop 100 lbs and become supermodels. But they'll make healthy changes and continue to work at making themselves better. They won't give up because they believe in themselves and they see the changes happening for the better. Even when they hapen slowly like with workinit. They still happen and they are measurable.
Thanks workinit. Keep up the good work for yourself and for us. I can't wait til I hear about the day you are at your goal weight and walking without a cane, and dancing and running like you dream about. You already got out of the wheelchair so I know you can do it.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 10:11 PM
10:11--if believing you can be thin works for you great, but reading through this post, other posters are being factual. not every person who is over weight got there because they didn't believe they could be thin.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 9:21 AM
you just don't get it.... we are talking about mindset, attitude, believing in oneself.. it doesn't just apply to weight loss, it applies to most obstacles we encounter... its hard to succeed without these - we don't neglect the facts - we just add to them.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 10:05 AM
and you get it? it's great that "mindset" and "believing" work for some people, but this constant misconception that it works for ALL is absurd. The facts are this kind of weight loss (and that was the point of the OP, not everything else as you stated) doesn't work for everyone as the OP claimed by stating "Getting Fit: It's all about Attitude, Loving Yourself & Sharing With Others" For some people, myself included, weight loss has nothing to do with attitude, loving yourself, and sharing with others. Is that so hard to understand?
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 10:20 AM
yes, I get that it doesn't work for you because medical conditions limit your weight loss efforts. if she said MOST people instead of ALL would that make you feel better? MOST poeple need the right attitude to undertake changing ones lifestyle.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 10:25 AM
Yes it is hard to understand. Just like the word "all" in the original post is a problem, so is the word "nothing" in your post.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 10:29 AM
well forgive her for being on her deathbed and fighting back by saying I believe I can get better. and forgive her for then making it into a wheelchair because she believed she could. and forgive her for then making it out of the wheelchair and walking with a walker because she believed she could. even though the doctors said she couldn't and wouldn't. and forgive her for giving up the foods that have fake ingredients being pushed by the "food industry" that made her feel sick and stay fat. and forgive her for being able to "get rid of" more than 50 lbs in a year and a half. and forgive her for thinking that if she believed and could do it, then maybe somebody else would like to know about it so they can start believing in themselves. i forgive her. and i thank her.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 11:01 AM
Why, why, why does this person - for whom this thread is apparently irrelevant - keep coming back? Start your own thread as someone else suggested!
Sheesh. What a waste of energy beating down someone who has changed their life and is a motivation to others.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 11:17 AM
aren't you spending your time beating people down for their thoughts? hypocritical if you ask me...
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 11:20 AM
this is someone who just can't be happy unless he/she makes sure other people aren't happy either.
someone who really enjoys being negative and riling up others.
i'm so sorry you didn't get the positive reinforcement, love and support from your family that you should have.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 12:53 PM
This is to 5:47 Just Getting Started. The statement you posted is your start. You have begun. What a fantastic journey you are on. You will find a great and valuable treasure.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 1:17 PM
11:20am - therapy
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 1:34 PM
12:53 You have just proven to everyone how ignorant you are by making statements that I didn't get positive reinforcement, love, and support. You assume that I am miserable because I am trying to get you out of your little box and see a bigger picture.
Do you also see how negative you are being by attacking my opinion and then calling me negative. wow.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 3:00 PM
It seems that there is a good share of people here that are just waiting to
jump on anyone's case about anything. Some must be so small minded that
they just sit, lurk and wait to jump on anyone - and unfortunately, some are
vicious about it.
Everybody who doesn't agree with the theme of this thread - go away and leave the rest of us alone. You don't have to continue making your unpleasant comments and bringing us all down.
Go start your own bleeping thread!!
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 4:27 PM
i just came into conversation and find it funny. isn't this thread a public thread? meaning, anyone can post and share opinions? i think what's worse than arguing because opinions vary is telling people they can't share an opinion.
good job workinit, but i agree, this kind of weight loss isn't for everyone.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 4:33 PM
Your right but according to workinit, weight "loss" shouldn't be for anyone. This is where I agree with her totally. If you lose it, there's always the possibility you could find it. I don't want to find any of the 21 lbs I already "got rid of". Thanks for that perfect terminology workinit! That's why I never say I "lost" 21 lbs.
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 5:31 PM
hugzzzzzzzzzzz workinit girlfriend keep going I think your an amazing person.
she is not saying mindset alone will help you get rid of weight. we have to work to accomplish our goals.. we have to exercise. we have to watch what we eat., but the mindset and attitude in believing in yourself sure helps if you have the determination to make it happen.
I agree that disabilities can hold you back, but I also think you can fight back and come out stronger.
my mom had a stroke doc told her she would never walk or probably talk.. well she walks with alimp and she can talk up a storm.. just because we have disabilities doesnt mean we have to give into them.. ever hear the saying . wheat doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
workinitg has been through alotg and chnaged her way of life..
I have to say I am not on a diet. a diet is something you do for a short time. I have a way of eating thats a lifestyle change for me. its something I can do for teh rest of my life.
I sarted out a size 35 at 370 pounds.. I am now a 179.. I have to disagree with the poster that said to keep your clothes you will probably need them again.. I ahve gotten rid of each size of clothing that was too big forme. I didnt mispace my pounds . I released them and I dont intend on finding them again. holding onto clothes to me is a mentality of thinking if I gain weight I will have these clothes to wear.. well to me that way of thinking is unacceptable. I dont ever want to go backwards in my journey. only forwards.
to those that are saying this is a diet and you cant do it.. all I can say is I use to have that mentality after the steroiids the doc had me on. when I came off them. I thought I can never lose the weight. I will always be fat.. guess what I was UNTILL I changed my mindset and started believing in my self worth. believing that I deserved more out of life..
I am not saying its a easy road.. its not, but its one worth taking. its hard work. perserverance, determination, but it can be done.
so I have to side with workin it and say I am not done with my journey and I can finishing shedding these excess pounds and I will.
pt is an amazing tool in my weight loss journey. I love my groups and teams.. this is family to me..
to the poster that thinks we are wearing rose colored glasses and believing isnt enough.. I have to say I hope you find some inner strength to face your demons. if that is going to be your mindset. your right you never will get rid of the weight. and maybe there is something physically wrong with you that makes losing weight hard for you.. does that mean you give up. you dont fight and do your best to win..
I am a leo I never give up easy when I want something and I want to be healthy and fit. so yes I beleive your mind and heart have to be in the right place to begin this journey.
you have to be patient, you have to make sacrifices and healthy choices, but in the long run you will thank yourself for it.
ok I am done with my soapbox lol
I care about this site and the people in it and I know you can lose weight even if the odds are stacked against you.. more people have beaten the odds by believing in thierselves and knowing that they are worth it..
are you going to join us and work and make your dreams come true..
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 6:42 PM
lynetta i so right I agree totally
Thursday, December 27, 2007, 9:44 PM
It is about loving yourself instead of loving the food. They say that the best way to break a habit is to replace it with something else. Replace the escape into food with the open love for yourself. Prefacing every decision with the decision to do it because I have love for myself makes everything so much easier and fun too.
Friday, December 28, 2007, 10:03 AM
this works for people who eat the wrong foods, or too much, or too often. what about the people who eat all the right foods and think it's the right portions. but don't lose any weight? thinking about loving yourself before eating won't have anything to do with it. you need to think about other things. but like what? how do you figure it out so it works?
Friday, December 28, 2007, 11:18 AM
This is a real enigma. There may be something I am missing, but I would like to share my experience.
Intent is mirrored in thoughts, thoughts are mirrored in actions, and actions are mirrored in the body. There is an unbroken relationship here.
For me the intent to lose weight and stay on a diet, lots of rules, worked for awhile, but I had a strong insight that all the "dieting" was just control and that what I really wanted is to be free. The insight to love myself seemed to give me an intent that was without effort. It also seemed to be infused with much more energy with this intent.
Hope this helps.
Friday, December 28, 2007, 12:17 PM
PP I don't understand anything you said. But I want to so please explain in real people talk. Thanks.
Friday, December 28, 2007, 2:52 PM
2:52 lol :)
Friday, December 28, 2007, 4:22 PM
I think what she was tryung to say is dieting and rules worked for awhile, but the idea of doing this for herself seeing her self worth made it easier to put more effort into it. Im not saying it was easier just maybe that it gave her a better reason.
Friday, December 28, 2007, 4:29 PM
I also know for a fact that being "on a diet" doesn't work. The mental image of a diet is restriction and beiing deprived of foods you like and want. I totally agree it has to be called a lifestyle change and it has to be something you do forever without feeling controlled, restricted or deprived if it's going to work for you.
I also really like the idea of calling the pounds that melt away "gone" rather than "lost". Thank you for saying "getting rid of" instead of "losing". It's made a real big difference in the way I think, so I'm sure it's going to make a big difference in the way things go for me from here on out.
No more diet, no more weight loss, no more losing weight. Like workinit and lyneta I'm changing my lifestyle and getting rid of the extra weight.
Friday, December 28, 2007, 8:25 PM
Thanks for this thread. I am also changing the way I think about this whole process. And I'm very optimistic that it will have real positive changes for me.
Friday, December 28, 2007, 9:38 PM
I agree with you 100%. It is ALL about attitude, loving yourself and sharing (loving others). Thank you for the post.
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 12:13 PM
All the negative comments just made the positive ones seem more true. Funny how that works.
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 12:32 PM
Thanks for this positive and inspiring topic. Reading everybody's comments - the positive ones and the negative ones too - reinforced my belief that the original poster is right on track.
Tuesday, January 01, 2008, 11:50 AM
I think this is one of those "which came first". I noticed that I was learning all along the way...better food choices...better ways to address stress...better psychological health, etc. One area of improvement would trigger a change in another area. There are some real surprises along the way, and some of the benefits were unimaginable to begin with.
Tuesday, January 01, 2008, 1:31 PM
all i know is i was very fat, more than 2 times the size i should be, and now i'm just overweight. now i have only 35 lbs to go and i feel wonderful. workinit and lynette are right about the whole things. i did it mostly there way and i succeded so far.
Tuesday, January 01, 2008, 5:28 PM
After reading these different comments I will share a great piece of advice that was given to me about another program.
Take what you want and leave the rest.
Seems to me you do and try different things, if it works for you then keep it, if not let it go. Then keep truckin along.
Tuesday, January 01, 2008, 5:38 PM
that's true, big thing though -- don't give up and always be thinking positive that yu can do it, even if somethig isn't working for you at the moment, then try something else.
Tuesday, January 01, 2008, 10:38 PM
I thought of something that I could share that may be helpful to others. I was listening to a podcast and the women being interviewed said that when she asks herself a question about what she should do when she is unclear about something and when she wants her actions to reflect her intended love (for herself or others) she puts her hand on her heart as a conscious gesture to herself that she is asking or acting from the heart. I found this is very powerful.
Wednesday, January 02, 2008, 9:15 AM
Workingit I checked you out in the spotlight. Very good. But I see your spotlight team is almost over and they are going to start a new one with all different poeple for the new year. What will you be doing after the spotlight is over? Can you start your own team so those of us who like what you are doing can join you? Thanks!
Wednesday, January 02, 2008, 6:50 PM
I see where they started a new team called the holiday time spotlight 2007 or something like that. It looks open to anybody not just the folks who were in the spotlight during the holidays.
Tuesday, January 08, 2008, 1:49 AM
she's in the holiday spotlight team anybody can view
Saturday, February 23, 2008, 12:03 PM
here we go again, peple who want to seewhat she's up to
Saturday, February 23, 2008, 6:24 PM
I think these are all terrific ideas the OP has. They might not work for everyone but we should all be nice to each other. If you don't agree then just move on to the next topic. Let's give each other the moral support we all need to succeed.
Sunday, February 24, 2008, 9:45 AM
You have got a great following here. . .
Wow! Seems as if you are popular poster! There are people who just can't wait to see what you do next. Keep up the great work and show what time, perseverance and the desire to change for the better can do for you.
Sunday, February 24, 2008, 3:40 PM
planning. That is the only way to get fit. Plan on it, and write it down on your fridge, on your bathroom mirror.
Wednesday, March 05, 2008, 9:02 PM
this is a really great thread
i enjoyed reading but some people aren't so nice
this op has a really good outlook
i'm going to try to do things her way and see what happens for me
Monday, April 21, 2008, 12:22 AM
I care about me and want to be as healthy and fit as possible. But sometimes that piece of cheesecake or square of lasagne is just yelling out to me to eat it! Does that make me a bad person? Someone who doesn't love herself more than the food items?
Monday, April 21, 2008, 11:14 AM
Great point! I think that's what other posters were trying to point out. This idea of thinking works for some, but not all.
Monday, April 21, 2008, 11:20 AM
Well nothing works for me. I want to lose weight ad I plan a diet in detail. Then I don't follow it. I just can't resist the foods I love. It's almost like being addicted to drugs. WHat can I do?????
Monday, April 21, 2008, 11:50 AM
I am with you. I eat because of the emotional aspect, not because i'm hungry. I think it's hard for most people to realize it's an addiction and hunger sometimes physically hurts.
I find eating lots of protein and eating every two hours has helped me control my eating. For the first few weeks, I avoided fruits because they make the hunger pangs 10x worse! I eat fruit and I am starving minutes later. So, until I got the hang of eating every two hours (small portions), i avoided them. Now I find I can handle fruit several times a day without the pain.
Monday, April 21, 2008, 11:59 AM
11:50 - Try the Beck Diet Solution. It's not a diet. It addresses the mindset you have around food, the things you tell yourself (e.g., "I can't resist"), and the inability to stick to anything.
Monday, April 21, 2008, 1:49 PM
So it ~~IS~~ all about how you think. Of course your going to be hungry at certain times of the day because your body is made to eat and burn calories for energy. But the things we think we are addicted to, it's all an emotional/mental attachment. My body may say it's hungry and it may say it wants some protein and some fat. But it doesn't require fried chicken! That protein could be roasted chicken and the fat could be olive oil on a salad. Right? So just because I love fried chicken and have a really hard time resisting it, that doesn't mean I'm addicted to it. I need to change my mindset so I can think clearly when I'm around the sight and smell of it. (my sister the skinny minny makes fried chicken all the time - she and her boyfriend can eat all they want and never gain an ounce - I HATE THEM!)
Monday, April 21, 2008, 4:51 PM
Another oversimplification. Why are there so many threads that tell you such over simplified ways of losing weight or of just living?
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 2:58 AM
Why has this thread been dredged up from the dead? The OP is a self righteous imposer of her own ideas and if you read through all the threads in this board you'll see hardly anybody likes her. Except for a few silly groupies who follow her every word.
And I'm not afraid so I'll sign my name - Rachel
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:30 AM
I agree with you Rachel, in a nicer way. I was the person who was constantly slammed in the beginning of this thread for saying it doesn't work for everyone, so quit assuming it does and making statements like "it's all about..."
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:34 AM
listen.. please don't worry about the above posters. please don't let them make you quit PT because of these negative people... NO, I'm not a groupie, or whatever...
others like you because of YOU as a person and also because of how helpful you are.... we want to help you as well. if you quit, these people win. don't cower down to them. keep on improving yourself in all the ways that you can... you have so many obstacles to overcome and you are doing a great job.
another thing.. these people are clearly jealous of the attention - if you look - anyone getting attention in PT is getting slammed because of these idiots. - probably the 2 same people over and over again. a few bad apples.....
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:44 AM
Ok the people who are jealous of workinit. I want to know why? She has a whole slew of crippling diseases and struggles every day just to stand up and walk. Some of those diseases mean there are foods she can't eat and there are foods she has to eat even if she doesn't like them. She takes tons of medications and even has to give herself shots every day. What about this is so appealing that would make you jealous of her? I sure wouldn't want to live like that if I didn't have to.
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:11 PM
so, let me see if i get your point of view. Because we don't have the same opinion as her, we are jealous? Is that your point?
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 2:03 PM
Because you keep slamming her and saying mean things about her. Usually when somebody repeatingly says mean things about someone else that are unfounded, it's because they are somehow jealous of the person they are condemming. I just don't understand why you'd want to be jealous of this particular person because you probably have everything going so much better than she does.
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 5:56 PM
Hey Rachel, are you a fan of Bush perhaps? I've noticed certain similarities in your vocabulary and that got me to thinking. What with the use of 'imposer' and all.
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:25 PM
what does politics have to do with anything? Rachel is just someone who wants to be mean and start a ruckus.
Too many people on PT want to be mean and start a ruckus. That's not what this thread was suppose to be about. The OP was just trying to offer some encouragement and helpful hints. But people can't take it as it is. They have to distort everything and make fun of the OP til she doesn't even want to be a part of PT anymore. They should be ashamed of themselves for that.
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 9:01 AM
To: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 5:56 PM
Can you please tell me your qualifications to make statements like:
"Usually when somebody repeatingly says mean things about someone else that are unfounded, it's because they are somehow jealous of the person they are condemming."
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 9:23 AM
Ok then. My mom is a psychiatrist and my dad is a psychologist. I learned this from them. They talk to me and my brothers about this kind of thing all the time.
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 9:44 AM
That would make your parents qualified to make those statements.
Yes, I am for real. I don't agree with the OP saying: If you love yourself enough to want to do waht will keep or get you healthy and fit -- you'll make it.
That does not apply to everyone and as soon as someone says differently, even in a nice manner, they are called jealous.
Everyone has the right to agree or disagree without other posters making personal attacks on them. When I disagree without someone's opinion, it is not because I am jealous of them, it is because I don't agree and have made my own opinions, right or wrong.
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:18 AM
The politics joke was mocking Bush's and Rachel's creativism of words. Like when Bush said, "Decider" or "Strategery" and Rachel said "Imposer"
Get it? Nudge nudge, wink wink, know my meaning? Say no more, say no more. A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind bat after all.
P.S. Unless "Imposer" really IS a word and boy howdy would I feel foolish:-)
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:32 AM
guys give it a rest.. today is 911. do we have to bicker and fight. why not be greatful for this site and support each other. reflecting on this day dont you realize life is too short.
this is a day that many lost thier lives. many lost loved ones and friends this day.. doesnt that put things into perspective for you? Don't we have better things in life to do than to pull people down when this site is built to do the opposite.
lets support each other and respect each others differences. we are not all alike and we may not think alike, but cant we try to understand and respect each other. this thread was started to give support and encouragement.
do we have to make a issue and disect the meaning of everything everyone says. if you agree with it cool if you dont respect the opinion and move on.
Just something to think about.
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:40 AM
Not to bicker and fight, but isn't that an oxymoron Lynetta? giving your opinion and not moving on by telling other people to move on? Just curious.
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:03 AM
And lynnetta is another one I'm tired of hearing from and hearing about. This site could be a whole lot better if she stopped posting her pollyana comments and all this can't we get along stuff. Her and workinit should just stop posting all together. The less we see their names, the less conflict we'll see on this board. MArk my words.
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 1:23 PM
I fail to see your logic. You must be that Mensa person then.
How are things with you today?
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 1:35 PM
Buzz, you make me laugh.
It's one of those personal attacks again it appears. Can't disagree with anyone without getting personally attacked.
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 1:42 PM
Which is really sad since this site is all about support. When did it start being about attacking those who think differently from yourself?
The comments here are so far off base from where they began with the OP. And I can't find anything the OP said that's so terrible that people should be talking bad about her in so many different threads.
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:23 PM
That's just the way things go around here. It seems to me that the people making the really outlandish comments are the ones who really enjoy the limelight. So my big question is: why don't they sign their names? How can they love the attention but not actually claim it?
Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:11 PM
It's the whole anonymous thing where you can say whatever you want and start the biggest flap possible but don't have to take responsibility. People who like to do that are sneaky and creepy. In real life they're the ones you think are perfect. They act nice to everybody, they do their jobs well and never talk about co-workers or bosses. This is how they get out all the agression from every aspect of their lives that stays hidden on a daily basis. It's the modern day poison pen letter.
Workinit and Lynneta, ignore this bull cozz it really has nothing to do with you personally.
Friday, September 12, 2008, 11:20 AM
Definitely good advice, but from what I hear Workinit has left the site. I haven't checked it out today but that's what someone in another thread said.
So I hope that the those that contributed to this, (you know who you are) have their sights locked on the next person that they want to run off so they don't waste their time. Have you guys picked anyone else yet to run off? I've noticed that there are a couple of more folks that are signing their names so it will make it easier for you to pick on them. Anybody look good to you yet? Do you guys want to make it two for two with someone with some major health problems? Or do you want to go with someone that's a little more gamey?
Let us know what you decide.
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